Yongchul Chung wrote:
Hi again gmx-users,

I ran into LINCS error again when I tried to incorporate pressure scaling parameters. It seems like the initial pressure and temperature is erroneously large as shown in the md.log file below. can anyone tell me how to fix this?


Did you run energy minimization first?

-Justin

Thanks

Input Parameters:
   integrator           = md
   nsteps               = 100000
   init_step            = 0
   ns_type              = Grid
   nstlist              = 10
   ndelta               = 2
   nstcomm              = 1
   comm_mode            = Linear
   nstlog               = 10
   nstxout              = 500
   nstvout              = 1000
   nstfout              = 0
   nstenergy            = 10
   nstxtcout            = 0
   init_t               = 0
   delta_t              = 0.002
   xtcprec              = 1000
   nkx                  = 0
   nky                  = 0
   nkz                  = 0
   pme_order            = 4
   ewald_rtol           = 1e-05
   ewald_geometry       = 0
   epsilon_surface      = 0
   optimize_fft         = TRUE
   ePBC                 = xyz
   bPeriodicMols        = FALSE
   bContinuation        = FALSE
   bShakeSOR            = FALSE
   etc                  = V-rescale
   epc                  = Berendsen
   epctype              = Isotropic
   tau_p                = 1
   ref_p (3x3):
      ref_p[    0]={ 1.01325e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
      ref_p[    1]={ 0.00000e+00,  1.01325e+00,  0.00000e+00}
      ref_p[    2]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  1.01325e+00}
   compress (3x3):
      compress[    0]={ 4.50000e-03,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
      compress[    1]={ 0.00000e+00,  4.50000e-03,  0.00000e+00}
      compress[    2]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  4.50000e-03}
   refcoord_scaling     = No
   posres_com (3):
      posres_com[0]= 0.00000e+00
      posres_com[1]= 0.00000e+00
      posres_com[2]= 0.00000e+00
   posres_comB (3):
      posres_comB[0]= 0.00000e+00
      posres_comB[1]= 0.00000e+00
      posres_comB[2]= 0.00000e+00
   andersen_seed        = 815131
   rlist                = 1
   rtpi                 = 0.05
   coulombtype          = Cut-off
   rcoulomb_switch      = 0
   rcoulomb             = 1.4
   vdwtype              = Cut-off
   rvdw_switch          = 0
   rvdw                 = 1.4
   epsilon_r            = 1
   epsilon_rf           = 1
   tabext               = 1
   implicit_solvent     = No
   gb_algorithm         = Still
   gb_epsilon_solvent   = 80
   nstgbradii           = 1
   rgbradii             = 2
   gb_saltconc          = 0
   gb_obc_alpha         = 1
   gb_obc_beta          = 0.8
   gb_obc_gamma         = 4.85
   sa_surface_tension   = 2.092
   DispCorr             = No
   free_energy          = no
   init_lambda          = 0
   sc_alpha             = 0
   sc_power             = 0
   sc_sigma             = 0.3
   delta_lambda         = 0
   nwall                = 0
   wall_type            = 9-3
   wall_atomtype[0]     = -1
   wall_atomtype[1]     = -1
   wall_density[0]      = 0
   wall_density[1]      = 0
   wall_ewald_zfac      = 3
   pull                 = no
   disre                = No
   disre_weighting      = Conservative
   disre_mixed          = FALSE
   dr_fc                = 1000
   dr_tau               = 0
   nstdisreout          = 100
   orires_fc            = 0
   orires_tau           = 0
   nstorireout          = 100
   dihre-fc             = 1000
   em_stepsize          = 0.01
   em_tol               = 10
   niter                = 20
   fc_stepsize          = 0
   nstcgsteep           = 1000
   nbfgscorr            = 10
   ConstAlg             = Lincs
   shake_tol            = 0.0001
   lincs_order          = 4
   lincs_warnangle      = 30
   lincs_iter           = 1
   bd_fric              = 0
   ld_seed              = 1993
   cos_accel            = 0
   deform (3x3):
      deform[    0]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
      deform[    1]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
      deform[    2]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
   userint1             = 0
   userint2             = 0
   userint3             = 0
   userint4             = 0
   userreal1            = 0
   userreal2            = 0
   userreal3            = 0
   userreal4            = 0
grpopts:
   nrdf:       11297
   ref_t:         300
   tau_t:         0.1
anneal:          No
ann_npoints:           0
   acc:               0           0           0
   nfreeze:           N           N           N
   energygrp_flags[  0]: 0
   efield-x:
      n = 0
   efield-xt:
      n = 0
   efield-y:
      n = 0
   efield-yt:
      n = 0
   efield-z:
      n = 0
   efield-zt:
      n = 0
   bQMMM                = FALSE
   QMconstraints        = 0
   QMMMscheme           = 0
   scalefactor          = 1
qm_opts:
   ngQM                 = 0
Table routines are used for coulomb: FALSE
Table routines are used for vdw:     FALSE
Cut-off's:   NS: 1   Coulomb: 1.4   LJ: 1.4
System total charge: -0.000
Configuring nonbonded kernels...
Testing AMD 3DNow support... not present.
Testing ia32 SSE support... present.


Removing pbc first time

Initializing LINear Constraint Solver

The number of constraints is 5500
Center of mass motion removal mode is Linear
We have the following groups for center of mass motion removal:
  0:  rest

There are: 5600 Atoms
Max number of connections per atom is 4
Total number of connections is 11000
Max number of graph edges per atom is 4
Total number of graph edges is 11000

Constraining the starting coordinates (step 0)

Constraining the coordinates at t0-dt (step 0)
RMS relative constraint deviation after constraining: 4.85e-05
Initial temperature: 307.706 K

Started mdrun on node 0 Fri Oct  9 11:09:36 2009

           Step           Time         Lambda
              0        0.00000        0.00000

Grid: 7 x 7 x 7 cells
   Energies (kJ/mol)
        LJ (SR)        LJ (LR)   Coulomb (SR)   Coulomb (LR)      Potential
    4.09130e+05   -2.61414e+01   -1.20894e+04   -4.35981e+02    3.96578e+05
    Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure (bar)  Cons. rmsd ()
    4.24944e+04    4.39073e+05    9.04819e+02   -1.31995e+04    4.03210e-04


Step 1 Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: 0.960399 0.960399 0.960399

Step 3  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: 1.13142 1.13142 1.13142

Step 4  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: 1.81135 1.81135 1.81135

Step 5 Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: 3.4866e+09 3.4866e+09 3.4866e+09

-------------------------------------------------------
Program mdrun, VERSION 4.0.2
Source code file: constr.c, line: 136

Fatal error:
Too many LINCS warnings (5235)
If you know what you are doing you can adjust the lincs warning threshold in your mdp file
or set the environment variable GMX_MAXCONSTRWARN to -1,
but normally it is better to fix the problem


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:



    Yongchul Chung wrote:

        Hi guys,

        As Justin pointed out, it was the problem with md simulation
        blowing up. I also had coloumbtype=PME and had to switch to
        cut-off to make my simulation run faster.


    And it will be substantially less accurate than using PME.  I would
    say Jochen's advice is the best - reduce the time step to something
    reasonable, and use PME.

    -Justin

        Thanks for all the help.

        On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Jochen Hub
        <joc...@xray.bmc.uu.se <mailto:joc...@xray.bmc.uu.se>
        <mailto:joc...@xray.bmc.uu.se <mailto:joc...@xray.bmc.uu.se>>>
        wrote:




            delta_t              = 0.01

           You are using a 10 fs timestep!!! That is way too long.
        Standard is
           2 (with bond constraints).



           Yongchul Chung wrote:

               Hi all,

               I am trying to simulate 100 molecules of n-alkane
        molecules but
               keep receiving LINC errors.
               When I completed steepest descent I received following msg:

               Steepest Descents converged to Fmax < 500 in 819 steps
               Potential Energy  =  1.7174361e+05
               Maximum force     =  4.4903098e+02 on atom 172
               Norm of force     =  3.0003010e+01

               Then I performed mdrun with the output of this file and gets
               LINCS warning:


               Input Parameters:
                 integrator           = md
                 nsteps               = 8000
                 init_step            = 0
                 ns_type              = Grid
                 nstlist              = 10
                 ndelta               = 2
                 nstcomm              = 1
                 comm_mode            = Linear
                 nstlog               = 10
                 nstxout              = 250
                 nstvout              = 1000
                 nstfout              = 0
                 nstenergy            = 10
                 nstxtcout            = 0
                 init_t               = 0
                 delta_t              = 0.01
                 xtcprec              = 1000
                 nkx                  = 125
                 nky                  = 125
                 nkz                  = 125
                 pme_order            = 4
                 ewald_rtol           = 1e-05
                 ewald_geometry       = 0
                 epsilon_surface      = 0
                 optimize_fft         = TRUE
                 ePBC                 = xyz
                 bPeriodicMols        = FALSE
                 bContinuation        = FALSE
                 bShakeSOR            = FALSE
                 etc                  = V-rescale
                 epc                  = No
                 epctype              = Isotropic
                 tau_p                = 1
                 ref_p (3x3):
                    ref_p[    0]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
                    ref_p[    1]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
                    ref_p[    2]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
                 compress (3x3):
                    compress[    0]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,
         0.00000e+00}
                    compress[    1]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,
         0.00000e+00}
                    compress[    2]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,
         0.00000e+00}
                 refcoord_scaling     = No
                 posres_com (3):
                    posres_com[0]= 0.00000e+00
                    posres_com[1]= 0.00000e+00
                    posres_com[2]= 0.00000e+00
                 posres_comB (3):
                    posres_comB[0]= 0.00000e+00
                    posres_comB[1]= 0.00000e+00
                    posres_comB[2]= 0.00000e+00
                 andersen_seed        = 815131
                 rlist                = 1
                 rtpi                 = 0.05
                 coulombtype          = PME
                 rcoulomb_switch      = 0
                 rcoulomb             = 1
                 vdwtype              = Cut-off
                 rvdw_switch          = 0
                 rvdw                 = 2
                 epsilon_r            = 1
                 epsilon_rf           = 1
                 tabext               = 1
                 implicit_solvent     = No
                 gb_algorithm         = Still
                 gb_epsilon_solvent   = 80
                 nstgbradii           = 1
                 rgbradii             = 2
                 gb_saltconc          = 0
                 gb_obc_alpha         = 1
                 gb_obc_beta          = 0.8
                 gb_obc_gamma         = 4.85
                 sa_surface_tension   = 2.092
                 DispCorr             = No
                 free_energy          = no
                 init_lambda          = 0
                 sc_alpha             = 0
                 sc_power             = 0
                 sc_sigma             = 0.3
                 delta_lambda         = 0
                 nwall                = 0
                 wall_type            = 9-3
                 wall_atomtype[0]     = -1
                 wall_atomtype[1]     = -1
                 wall_density[0]      = 0
                 wall_density[1]      = 0
                 wall_ewald_zfac      = 3
                 pull                 = no
                 disre                = No
                 disre_weighting      = Conservative
                 disre_mixed          = FALSE
                 dr_fc                = 1000
                 dr_tau               = 0
                 nstdisreout          = 100
                 orires_fc            = 0
                 orires_tau           = 0
                 nstorireout          = 100
                 dihre-fc             = 1000
                 em_stepsize          = 0.01
                 em_tol               = 10
                 niter                = 20
                 fc_stepsize          = 0
                 nstcgsteep           = 1000
                 nbfgscorr            = 10
                 ConstAlg             = Lincs
                 shake_tol            = 0.0001
                 lincs_order          = 4
                 lincs_warnangle      = 30
                 lincs_iter           = 1
                 bd_fric              = 0
                 ld_seed              = 1993
                 cos_accel            = 0
                 deform (3x3):
                    deform[    0]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
                    deform[    1]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
                    deform[    2]={ 0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00,  0.00000e+00}
                 userint1             = 0
                 userint2             = 0
                 userint3             = 0
                 userint4             = 0
                 userreal1            = 0
                 userreal2            = 0
                 userreal3            = 0
                 userreal4            = 0
               grpopts:
                 nrdf:       11297
                 ref_t:         300
                 tau_t:         0.1
               anneal:          No
               ann_npoints:           0
                 acc:               0           0           0
                 nfreeze:           N           N           N
                 energygrp_flags[  0]: 0
                 efield-x:
                    n = 0
                 efield-xt:
                    n = 0
                 efield-y:
                    n = 0
                 efield-yt:
                    n = 0
                 efield-z:
                    n = 0
                 efield-zt:
                    n = 0
                 bQMMM                = FALSE
                 QMconstraints        = 0
                 QMMMscheme           = 0
                 scalefactor          = 1
               qm_opts:
                 ngQM                 = 0
               Table routines are used for coulomb: TRUE
               Table routines are used for vdw:     FALSE
               Will do PME sum in reciprocal space.

               ++++ PLEASE READ AND CITE THE FOLLOWING REFERENCE ++++
               U. Essman, L. Perela, M. L. Berkowitz, T. Darden, H. Lee
        and L.
               G. Pedersen
               A smooth particle mesh Ewald method
               J. Chem. Phys. 103 (1995) pp. 8577-8592
               -------- -------- --- Thank You --- -------- --------

               Using a Gaussian width (1/beta) of 0.320163 nm for Ewald
               Cut-off's:   NS: 1   Coulomb: 1   LJ: 2
               System total charge: -0.000
               Generated table with 1500 data points for Ewald.
               Tabscale = 500 points/nm
               Generated table with 1500 data points for LJ6.
               Tabscale = 500 points/nm
               Generated table with 1500 data points for LJ12.
               Tabscale = 500 points/nm
               Configuring nonbonded kernels...
               Testing AMD 3DNow support... not present.
               Testing ia32 SSE support... present.


               Removing pbc first time

               Initializing LINear Constraint Solver

               ++++ PLEASE READ AND CITE THE FOLLOWING REFERENCE ++++
               B. Hess and H. Bekker and H. J. C. Berendsen and J. G. E.
        M. Fraaije
               LINCS: A Linear Constraint Solver for molecular simulations
               J. Comp. Chem. 18 (1997) pp. 1463-1472
               -------- -------- --- Thank You --- -------- --------

               The number of constraints is 5500
               Center of mass motion removal mode is Linear
               We have the following groups for center of mass motion
        removal:
                0:  rest

               ++++ PLEASE READ AND CITE THE FOLLOWING REFERENCE ++++
               G. Bussi, D. Donadio and M. Parrinello
               Canonical sampling through velocity rescaling
               J. Chem. Phys. 126 (2007) pp. 014101
               -------- -------- --- Thank You --- -------- --------

               There are: 5600 Atoms
               Max number of connections per atom is 4
               Total number of connections is 11000
               Max number of graph edges per atom is 4
               Total number of graph edges is 11000

               Constraining the starting coordinates (step 0)

               Constraining the coordinates at t0-dt (step 0)
               RMS relative constraint deviation after constraining:
        6.33e-04
               Initial temperature: 306.393 K

               Started mdrun on node 0 Thu Oct  8 09:58:49 2009

                         Step           Time         Lambda
                            0        0.00000        0.00000

               Grid: 25 x 25 x 25 cells

               -------------------------------------------------------
               Program mdrun, VERSION 4.0.2
               Source code file: constr.c, line: 136

               Fatal error:
               Too many LINCS warnings (3821)
               If you know what you are doing you can adjust the lincs
        warning
               threshold in your mdp file
               or set the environment variable GMX_MAXCONSTRWARN to -1,
               but normally it is better to fix the problem
               -------------------------------------------------------

               Can anyone help me to navigate this issue?
               Thanks
               --        Yongchul "Greg" Chung
               Graduate Student
               Dept. of Chemical Engineering, Case Western Reserve
        University
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