On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 12:10:42PM -0300, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote

> Alexander Skwar wrote:
> > What do you need PAM for, when there's basically just one
> > (human) user on the system and the system acts as a "consumer"
> > (ie. no servers)? Why add the complexity of PAM? Where's
> > the gain - in *THAT* scenario?
> 
> Learning. The whole point of using free, open source software. if
> you do not want to get messy, then use windows. Anyway, if this user
> chosed all of his use flags, then he is probably willing to LEARN.

  It's not that I don't want to learn.  What I want to learn may be
different from what you want to learn.  I'm at the tail end of some
experiments with de-noising digital photos from my camera.  I've learned
a lot about ImageMagick's "convert" command.  It is one seriously
powerful image manipulation toolset.

  My next personal project will be learning postgresql.  I am familiar
with Oracle SQL and PL/SQL.  I'm not a CS, but at work I do write quite
a few read-only queries.  We've got Access via ODBC as well, but once
you get past the really simple stuff, GUI "Query By Example" runs into a
wall.  Anyone aware of any "postgresql user groups" in the Toronto area?

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