On 2/18/20 9:29 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:

On 19/2/20 4:16 am, james wrote:
So,

After contacting several US carriers, the cover story is you can get a
cell phone, root it with linux, and it 'should work'. Supposedly, you
are encourage, but they
will not offer any help. So rather than spending months,
I'd like to 'cheat' and find a gentoo hack(er) that has
rooted and put some form of gentoo, or embedded_gentoo
on a cell phone.

Please respond to the list, but, for whatever reason, private
responses are OK too.


I'm just tire of my Android cell phone downloading update *every
night*. I want/need control of the stacks
running on the phone. I have heard this is quite popular in Europe and
the Rf circuits have their own firmware, so it's really next to
impossible to hack the Rf side
of communications.....?


Any and all responses, public or private, are most welcome. Links only
are fine too!


James


For gentoo, I would say "not easy at all" - the problem is custom
hardware, propriety drivers and lack of information, even in well
supported models.

There was an app where you could install gentoo into something like a
container - worked well but the android kernel I was using at the time
didn't have some functioned enabled that fed into limiting some
operations in the container.

Easier and more practical would be to install LibreOS. You can build ii
yourself and build/include your own software as needed - I did it many
times with its Cyanogenmod predecessor (I presume you still can).� There
are some other stacks suitable for phones such as sailfish and even
android can be built yourself (and you can defang/customise it while
doing it - google not needed and if you dont install GAPPS it still
works fine)

To be honest, if what you mentioned is your main gripe, build android
and use a third party app store like F-Droid to control that side of the
equation.

Make sure you look into rooting, flashing a new OS and the implications
of doing so - that can be another whole level of pain depending on the
brand of your hardware, and how recent it is (less chance with new stuff
as the really smart people have not had time to trailblaze :)

BillK

Good info (thanks!)
Here's what I've found so far. The purpose of this posting is to share info, so we have a gentoo on a cell phone. I am currently researching 'unlocked' samsung phones that support 5G and CDMA, so most sim cards should work. If others are interested, or know of viable github (etc) places to upload codes to, gentoo centric, I'd be all for that. I just done with carriers running my cell phones. Sure they can control the RF (hardware), but not the software running on the phone. here are a few links::


https://fossbytes.com/how-to-install-a-linux-on-android-phone-without-rooting/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_mobile_virtual_network_operators

Here is an unlocked 5G and CDMA? I'm looking at to root with gentoo::

Galaxy S20 5G 128GB (Unlocked)
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/phones/galaxy-s/galaxy-s20-5g-128gb-unlocked-sm-g981uzaaxaa/

Chating with samsung right now. Explaining *why* there needs to be a samsung dev phone, supporting and working with Gentoo.... we'll see how this goes...

More comments? encouragement, folks interested?

James

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