J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 01:21:37 PM Dale wrote: >> J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 02:04:47 AM Dale wrote: >>>> <<< SNIP >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dale >>>> >>>> :-) :-) >>> Dale, >>> >>> Considering the amount of changes, did you reboot the system or at least >>> killed everything running at least once? >>> >>> That should also help with the stability. >>> >>> Also, I used the following 2 meta-packages: >>> kde-apps/kde-apps-meta >>> kde-plasma/plasma-meta >>> >>> This gave me most stuff, including the configuration for virtual desktop >>> in the same place (SystemSettings) >>> >>> Start that, then search for "Virtual Desktops" and the only working icon >>> is >>> where you need to be. >>> >>> The pager thing to select the virtual desktops appears magically then. >>> >>> -- >>> Joost >> Update and some info for Joost. > Thanks, as I now have a bit more time, I will add my own thoughts as well. > >> I been playing with this a while and found some things. First, I had to >> get to the settings part which would only give a error working. When I >> got to the edit part, I figured out that for some reason, it was still >> trying to run the KDE4 command, which was removed during the upgrade of >> course. So, I got that back by giving it the new command, >> systemsettings5 I think was it. That helped. > Hmm, I actually started it from the K-menu. When it's opened, you can search > through all the entries by simply typing. > I did do an " emerge --depclean " before trying to configure things. Eg. > systemsettings for kde4 disappeared already.
That is sort of what I was trying to do except I was looking for the actual menu entry. The problem is, the one for settings was not using the correct command. I'm not sure what to think about that. Anyway, after I fixed that, that lead to a lot more fixes on other things. >> Once in there, I found >> lots of things to help get things to where I could work with them. I >> found out that I could add multiple desktops back and at that point, the >> desktop pager thingy appeared and worked. I guess when it is set to 1 >> desktop, it doesn't show up or something. > Which seems logical behaviour to me. And the same happened here after > configuring it. > It is logical. I knew I had to enable multiple desktops but since the settings thing wasn't working, I couldn't figure out how to enable it. When I did a google search, I saw where several folks said it was gone which caused me great concern. I got to much stuff going on right now to redo my whole setup. >> I also got it to where it >> wouldn't turn my monitor off and lock the screen if I turned my head a >> minute. > I use my laptop also when at "public" places, like at a customer. Which means > the auto-lock-screen-after-5-minutes is a useful feature. > Now if only I could have that time auto-adjusted based on the network it's > connected to? :) Yea, the setting it had would be good for a public place or a laptop that can be any number of places. For my desktop tho, it was way to quick. Actually, I disabled the lock part. I just want my monitor to turn off after a while. If I want to lock the screen, I just use the keyboard shortcut ctrl alt L. >> Then I found out how to adjust the size of fonts in a lot of >> other places. Now that helped a lot. I was using a magnifying glass to >> read some stuff. I also set the numlock to on. I have numbers in my >> password and that was getting annoying to have to turn on. >> >> I very rarely reboot. After a big upgrade, I just go to single user, >> use the checkrestart command to be sure and then go back to default >> runlevel. I also generally clear the cache and such too. I restart or >> kill anything checkrestart shows if needed. > I had issues where checkrestart wouldn't kill enough, or didn't notice > changes > to configuration. Hibernate (eg. suspend-to-disk) didn't work from kde until > I > rebooted. I've never had that here. It seems to always work for me but you may have something installed that I don't. >> I do have those packages installed. I emerged plasma-meta and that >> pulled in a lot. Since I run some unstable stuff already, I had to >> adjust some things to get emerge happy. After that, it was a large >> download and a lot of compile time. > Those 2 pull in nearly everything. > >> As it is, the biggest thing is that it doesn't seem to carry over >> settings from KDE4. It seems to start out fresh just like if it was a >> clean install. > That is actually mentioned in the upgrade-guide. Just not in so-many words. > I actually think that's a good thing as a lot of the issues I had when first > switching to KDE4 was caused by left-over settings from KDE3. A fresh start > helped a lot. If I recall correctly, when I did the upgrade from KDE3 to KDE4, I tried to use my old settings. It was a mess. I ended up renaming the directory and starting fresh. Some things were just weird. Thing is, it was hard to figure out if it was a bad config or just a bug that needed fixing. As we likely recall, that switch was less than smooth for a lot of people. >> Other than that, it's OK. I still get the occasional >> plasma crash tho. It's not as often but it still pops up on occasion. > I've had 1 today, when I clicked on the up-pointing triangle to get all the > hidden systray items. That was, so far, the only one. I think I've had two today here. It seems to be getting better somehow. I'm not sure if it is me changing settings or what tho. >> I may start a emerge -e world. I haven't done that in a while anyway >> and it usually clears up weird issues that can't quite be figured out. >> >> Oh, I had to switch to sddm for this too. You just change the setting >> from kdm to sddm and it just works. > Same here, and mentioned in the upgrade-guide. > I actually did the change to SDDM before switching to KDE5/Plasma. > >> It looks different but it works >> fine. That may have carried over some settings. It selected the user >> and was ready for my password just like kdm did. Again, it looks >> different but it seems to work the same. I suspect one could adjust the >> settings, somewhere, and make it look like kdm if they wanted to. > Yes, you can. > Google for " sddm themes ". > They go in " /usr/share/sddm/themes " > > The OCD one looks like the KDM Oxygen theme... I may do that. I'm bad to search for Gentoo themes. lol I usually like them well enough. Thing is, I don't get to see sddm much. > > Now for my thoughts: > > I haven't found a decent colourscheme yet (There wasn't one for KDE4 either) > > Most of the apps are ok, just waiting for KDevelop 5 to appear in the tree. > > My biggest complaint though: > KSnapshot has disappeared and been replaced by " Spectacle ". > It might be a technically better solution, but the primary reason I > absolutely > love KSnapshot is it's ability to quickly take a new snapshot of the same > region (adjusting slightly when necessary) and then it defaulting to the next- > numbered filename in the same folder when selecting "Save As". > > With Spectacle I end up having to redefine the region every single time and > having to click multiple times to get to Save As and then it always goes back > to some Pictures folder. The quick-save (which includes a Quit-action) uses > timestamps. > In other words, I end up spending more time clicking needlessly during my > work, or renaming manually after the activity is finished. > > -- > Joost > > I kind of liked ksnapshot but rarely used it. It is really easy to use. I'll look into that other one and see what I can figure out with it. Dale :-) :-) P. S. Maybe now that I got my puter up to date, I can finish changing that clutch on the tractor. I'm almost to the clutch now. o_O
