Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-06 08:33 (UTC+0100): > I can think of no good reason to start with GRUB 0.97it.
I have hundreds of installations. Grub is simple and works. I'm not into breaking what works. >> Goal #2 is to get through that first pass >> without any of systemd being installed. > Then just follow the handbook. It appears you have read neither the > handbook nor the recent posts to your threads fully or you would know > that systemd is not the default and requires some extra steps to install. I don't remember the handbook saying I was supposed to memorize the whole thing before going back to the beginning and actually trying to install. If it did I would have been done before trying to start. I don't have an eidetic memory. I forget, a lot. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/About and the following several pages made the process look like it shouldn't be very difficult. If they were the only pages I knew or read, maybe it would have been easy, but that's not what happened. >> Choosing options rather >> accepting defaults is not "pretty easy", at least for me who installed >> Gentoo only once previously, more than 4 years ago. > Gentoo is not supposed to be easy, but if you'd just followed the > handbook you would have got what you wanted. Choosing non-defaults breaks the flow, especially when a branch explanation ends before an answer emerges. It probably would have been easy if only the first 3 or 4 Distrowatch columns existed and it had an empty systemd row. I haven't been able to reconcile apparent choices the older columns imply with Gentoo's instructions and mirror content. You understand how Gentoo "version" selection works. 4 days later and I'm apparently still a long way off from getting it, or whether it even offers any such thing. The swarm of good help I got here early on induced me to keep trying when I was really too exhausted to focus. I need to table it until some time when I'm mentally stronger, and less distracted. Dogged persistence isn't a positive attribute in every context. Sleep gets short changed, and failure snowballs. Neil Bothwick composed on 2015-08-06 09:10 (UTC+0100): > On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 03:59:44 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> 1-Distrowatch is what lead me to believe I could do something I wished >> to do. > Is it DistroWatch that led you to believe that what you wanted wasn't > the default to start with? Yes. >> e.g. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/Base >> discusses use of mirrorselect, before it directs to start chroot. In >> the context of a non-Gentoo boot (as offered in the alternative boot >> instructions) to get to stage 4, how exactly is mirrorselect to be >> found? > Mirrorselect is optional, just pick a mrror based on geographical > location. Done. >> Re progress: I'm at the point of running emerge --ask >> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources, but it quits if I say no, and fails emerging >> sys-devel/bc-1.06.95-r1 (emake AR="$(tc-getAR)") if I say yes. :-( >> http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/G/config.txt > Which clearly says ccache not found. That implies you have added ccache > to FEATURES but not installed the ccache package. I know, I did the same > thing last week. An "addition" was done somewhere around a decade ago, the last time I compiled anything from source. Before chrooting, I copied .bashrc from my template stash into the target /root. It has 'export "CC=ccache gcc"' in it. I commented it out, rebooted, rechrooted and tried again. bc still failed so I tried emerging ccache. That too failed. Lightbulb. Comment ccache out of chroot host too, restart. emerge ccache succeeded. emerge --ask sys-kernel/gentoo-sources did too. I still need to better balance persistence with sleep. Bed now. TBC. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
