On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Alon Bar-Lev <alo...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés <can...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> [...] >> > Incidentally, what exactly is wrong with systemd writing a dhcp server & >> > client, and an ntp client? Is that project prohibited from writing such >> > software? Are they not allowed to do it? Does it break legal laws? Is >> > there an NDA or non-compete clause in the mix that I'm not aware of? >> > Because they are the only things that could stop systemd from writing >> > such code; without such prohibitions they are free to spend their time >> > doing whatever they damn well please and if that means yet another dhcp >> > implementation, so be it. >> >> Alan, thanks for succinctly putting why is absurd to complain about >> someone else's desire to write whatever code she desires to write. And >> to sharing it to the world! The HORROR! >> >> How *DARE* they to release their code? For free! >> > > Once again, you do not understand the claim.
It is you who does not understand how software workds. See Alan response. > If a user of Gentoo chooses to use non systemd profile, it means that > we need to make sure systemd will not be a valid option, ever. Again, you don't understand how software works: this has nothing to do with "profiles", it has to do with the fact that UPower now relies on systemd, and therefore people who has UPower installed now, *by default*, require systemd. If they don't want systemd, there is a way to do it, but it requires manual intervention since they now need to first uninstall UPower. > In this case, if it is to disable the upower USE flag, or to provide > alternative, block newer version, whatever make it possible to have a > system working without systemd. It is provided: emerge -C upower emerge -1v upower-pm-utils It has to be done manually, though; otherwise you step on systemd users. > systemd should not be visible at any time, nor its implications. Nobody is here to deal with other people's OCD. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México