On 03/06/2014 19:08, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > Who is "forcing" anything? pm-utils has been unmaintained FOR FIVE > YEARS. Any project that decides to stop using it is making just the > right decision; UPower just did the correct thing. And systemd had > *nothing* to do with it, except for providing a better, more reliable > alternative. > > That's what you and many others don't seem to understand: systemd is a > *BETTER* implementation for basically *ALL* the hodgepodge of > "solutions" that we had before in our plumbing layer.
<weak attempt to inject humour and lighten the thread mood> This whole systemd thing looks awfully like the switch from a hosts file to DNS so many years ago. On the one had a hosts file worked and you could throw vi at it. On the other hand this DNS thing could be evil and we'd have to hand control over to <insert name of nebulous party here>. Trouble is, a host file is an awful solution and really just does everything badly. Much like shell init scripts. We all, sysadmins and devs alike, agree that consistent interfaces are a very good idea, so we pick a standard and stick with it. And yet, strangely, there's so much resistance to doing just that with early user space. I'm not a systemd user, but I do find this whole thing quite funny :-) </weak attempt to inject humour and lighten the thread mood> -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
