On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 01:21:30PM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Tanstaafl <tansta...@libertytrek.org> wrote: > > On 2013-09-28 4:17 PM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 19:04:41 +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >> > >>>> I suppose that what I am about to say isn't really relevant, but it is > >>>> unfortunate over the past year that people blamed udev specifically > >>>> for this. It is true that it does things that don't work if /usr isn't > >>>> mounted, but eudev does as well, since it is basically the same code. > >>> > >>> > >>> Who else is there to blame? We are continually being told that a > >>> separate /usr is "broken", as though this were some unfortunate act of > >>> <insert your deity here>, much like an earthquake. This gets > >>> patronising really quickly. (Please note, I'm NOT blaming you here. I > >>> appreciate that you're as much victim as Dale or me or anyone else > >>> round here.) > >> > >> > >> It's evolution. Linux has for years been moving in this direction, now it > >> has reached the point where the Gentoo devs can no longer devote the > >> increasing time needed to support what has now become an dge case. > > > > > > So the solution is to give users one MONTH to prepare? Why not 6 months, or > > better, a year? What for gods sake is the rush??? > > > > Where are the links/pointers to the INTERNAL discussions of this decision? I > > seriously want to know. If gentoo devs are not willing to provide a 'paper > > trail' for how this decision was arrived at, and let others judge their > > decisions based on the merits of their arguments, then what does that say > > about their true motivations/intentions? > > The discussion happened in [1], [2], and [3]. And in similar meetings > and mailing lists since months ago. > > [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.project/2946 > [2] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20130924.txt > [3] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/88282
You forgot [4]. [4] http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/235575 I was actually against it initially. After reading and understanding where the linux ecosystem is going, my position evolved to support it. William
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