On Saturday, September 17, 2011 02:43:00 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés <can...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:45 AM, Joost Roeleveld <jo...@antarean.org> wrote: > >> On Friday, September 16, 2011 10:53:47 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Joost Roeleveld <jo...@antarean.org> wrote: > >>> > On Thursday, September 15, 2011 05:05:00 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >>> >> "Last time I checked, neither GNOME nor Emacs demanded that > >>> >> Gentoo > >>> >> developers or users had to write a fork/replacement for a core > >>> >> component of the system. GNOME and Emacs just need ebuilds and > >>> >> adapting their configuration to Gentoo-isms. Testing and bug > >>> >> reporting, as usual. The only code needed is some small > >>> >> patches for > >>> >> both and around 200 lines of emacslisp for site-gentoo.el." > >>> > > >>> > Funny that you mention this. There might be something similar > >>> > brewing > >>> > for > >>> > users of Gnome where quite a few low-level parts will end up > >>> > being > >>> > mandatory for Gnome: > >>> > > >>> > "...but I'm increasingly seeing talk on the > >>> > gnome side of the "Gnome OS", to include pulse-audio, systemd, > >>> > policykit, > >>> > udev/u* (thus forcing lvm as well, at least lvm installation tho > >>> > nothing forces one to use it... yet, since lvm is required for > >>> > udisks), etc.">>> > >>> I'm pretty sure the last part is false. I certainly have udisk > >>> installet (it's pulled by gnome-disk-utility), but I don't use LVM. > >>> So > >>> there. > >> > >> I don't use Gnome and haven't looked into all this. Udev also doesn't > >> appear to have a LVM-useflag. But as I do use LVM, I can't actually > >> check. Do you have "sys-fs/lvm2" on your system? > >> > >> The ebuild does list it as "RDEPEND". > > > > Yes, I got it installed. I didn't noticed until now. Then again, it > > takes 1 minute to install in my puny laptop, and uses 7 Mb of hard > > drive. But anyhow, I was mistaken: it is forced by udisks. > > I think udisks depending on LVM is an error, so I decided I would took > this Saturday and see if I was able to write a patch that makes it > optional. However, as per free software rules, I first visited the > Freedesktop.org bugzilla. > > Gustavo Barbieri (who I mentioned before) got there first: > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37647 > > As I said before, Gustavo has contributed a lot to systemd, usually > making stuff optional. I'm sure his patch (or a similar version of it) > will be accepted.
I hope so too. I do use LVM, so having LVM used by "udisks" is logical. But if LVM isn't used, the tools shouldn't have to be present. I did notice on that bug-link that it was raised nearly 4 months ago with no response from the developers even though a patch exists was provided. > As I keep saying: code talks. Yes, but the developers are quiet with regards to that patch. I can understand if it takes some time to analyse a patch, but 4 months with no response is, in my view, similar to the devs saying they don't care. -- Joost
