Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 15:19:29 schrieb pk:
> On 2011-09-18 14:32, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > So you are going from a single bug to 'it must be evil'. If you do that
> > all the time there isn't much software left.
>
> You said: "I bet you can't even measure a
> difference between dbus running and dbus not running in speed or
> responsiveness of your gui."
>
> I only pointed out that that was not always correct (I don't run
> Ubuntu). And I have had a _lot_ of problems with dbus (again, this was
> years ago, running binary distros - it's only recently that I had dbus
> installed again due to Xfce4 requiring it); if I get burnt by some piece
> of software (usually it's gnome/freedesktop related - seems a lot of bad
> ideas/implementations come from that "place") I try to go "elsewhere".
> So if your experience with dbus is different, then fine, by all means
> use it; it is your choice. But I choose to avoid it, if possible.
>
> And yes, it seems no matter how hard I try the "gnome" paradigm ('evil'
> software) seems to be inching ever closer... I think developers, in
> general, should take some hints from this guy:
> http://www.sics.se/~adam/
> ... he created this:
> http://www.contiki-os.org/p/about-contiki.html
> ... running this:
> http://www.c64web.com/
>
> Best regards
>
> Peter k
well, I haven't run in that dbus-uses-100%-cpu bug. But I also take every and
all ubuntu bug reports with a huge amount of salt because of all the patches
they include.
But:
106 2740 0.0 0.0 20296 1484 ? Ss Sep11 0:20
/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system
1000 4852 0.0 0.0 18124 420 ? S Sep11 0:00
/usr/bin/dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session
1000 4853 0.1 0.0 16576 4916 ? Ss Sep11 11:20
/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session
root 5535 0.0 0.0 18268 560 pts/0 S Sep11 0:00 dbus-launch
--autolaunch bd5372f2e9f3742ccd79bd310000000a --binary-syntax --close-stderr
root 5536 0.0 0.0 11268 624 ? Ss Sep11 0:00
/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session
1000 21585 0.0 0.0 106240 912 pts/5 S+ 15:34 0:00 grep dbus
uptime
15:35:37 up 7 days, 14:37, 11 users, load average: 0.14, 0.06, 0.05
again, if it you say 'it must be bad because there is a bug in it' you can
disregard all software ever written. On a normal, not ubuntu system you won't
notice dbus running.
And since you have one standardized IPC system in place, all the apps don't
need to invent another one resulting in less code executed, less code in ram
and less code on your harddisk.
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