On 6/14/05, cothrige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Mark Knecht ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > If you were very judicious you might, possibly, somehow get it into > > 3GB but that would be tight. My smallest installation right now is a > > Pundit-R running fluxbox and MythTV. I uses about 2.4GB: > > > > myth11 root # df > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > > /dev/hda3 7610488 2384076 4839820 34% / > > none 94900 0 94900 0% /dev/shm > > myth11 root # > > > > You could solve about 1GB of the problem by making the portage > > directory be a network mount if you have NFS running somewhere. I did > > not do that above so really I'm only using about 1GB and making good > > use of a 2.5GHz Celeron D. > > Interesting. For future reference how might I go about moving the > portage directory? I am surprised that it would use that much space, > but perhaps that is why I am seeing such a difference in space usage > between this Gentoo installation and previous distros.
I think there is no difference in size between any of these distros really. KDE is the size of KDE. Gnome is the size of Gnome. Differences are pretty small compared to the overall size of things. The first step would be to mount /usr/portage on a separate machine using NFS. Setup an NFS server on that remote box, export the directory as rw, and then mount it as rw on your machine in fstab. At this point all the code that's downloaded by your box is actually placed on another machine where you have space. Keep i mind that this is 2-3 times the network traffic when you are building code - Internet->small machine->NFS drive for storage-> small machine to be built. None the less it works. More practical is to just do things normall and watch after the /usr/portage/distfiles. I currently have 600MB in mine on this laptop. On the small MythTV frontend machine I have 425MB right now but on machines I haven't cleaned up I have 1.5GB. It gets big over time. You can erase anything in this directory at the risk of needing to download it again if you decide to rebuild it. None the less it's easy to clean up to give oyu more space quickly. > > > > > That said I think you'd go nuts building all this stuff on a 450MHz > > machine. I just tried doing a Gentoo installation on an XBox a month > > or two ago. That was 750MHz but far less memory. Things took days due > > to swapping. > > You would very probably be right, except that I am just trying to get > a test install up to see if I even like the way it works. I am a > longtime Slackware user, but I have been less happy with that distro > as Gnome is hard to work with. I don't actually use Gnome, but it is > important to other things and so causes me difficulties. I am a > ratpoison guy myself. Sure - OK to test it out. Hard to live on it forever. But build fluxbox for test and learn, not Gnome. ;-) > > If I really like this I may move my main machine to it. That one is > a more reasonable, though still not fast, Athlon XP 2000+ setup. The > hard drive is bigger too, but I wanted to sort out where the space was > going so that I would have a better understanding of what is going > on. I am just not much for waste I suppose. That's fast enough. I used to use Gentoo on a 750 Athlon at my old job. It was fast enough. Not great but it got done. More memory helps, etc. You'll probably like Gentoo once you get past the shock of building it the first time. I built a new machine with fluxbox and MythTV and had it booting and starting to work in about 3-4 hours 2 weekends ago. Like I said, the first time it took me days to build and longer to learn about the commands necessary to administer it. (I'm neither a programmer or IT person. I'm a guitar player using Linux for music, email, web browsing and TV watching.) For someone like me it was a bit trying for all the nice people here to teach me but the folks here are like no others I've met on any list. Very, very, very helpful folks who share a huge amount of knowledge in a completely open way. I've learned a lot. I only screw up once a day now. ;-) - Mark Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
