On 5/9/05, Dave Nebinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Calvin, you're whole problem appears to be that the email on the list should > be modified to support your own desires. Posting in html because you prefer > it. Top posting to responses rather than scrolling to the bottom of the > quoted text (thus actually viewing the quoted text and snipping the > unnecessary parts).
No, my whole problem is that all I wanted to do was make an off handed comment about one or two or my own, personal thoughts and opinions, in reply to something mentioned by another member of this list. However, everyone misinterprets this as me saying everying is wrong and I know how to make it right. I'm just expressing an opinion, everyone, so chill a little bit, OK? If you don't agree, thats fine. As a matter of fact, that's great. This is what we call freedom of speech, and we are all free to practice this right. I'm happy to be able to, and happy for you to be able to, but not when it comes in the form of trying to silence someone else's rights of free speech. > You're looking at years worth of standards that have been built up and > saying after all of that time they need to be changed. Yeah, things change. This is the nature of things. You say the standards have been "built up" over the years? This is because small _changes_ were made to them. That's all I'm talking about, doing more of what has been done for years. For decades, even. > Fine - if you feel so strongly about it post an RFC and follow the normal > process for having standards changed. Your effort to post on this list will > not convince anyone nor would it make any substantial change. Well, of course. But, who would post an RFC until the idea was more solid? Maybe I felt the need to get some opinions on the thoughts before hand. Maybe see what I might want to add or to change about the ideas before trying something like that. Maybe I simply don't have the time, but still have the ideas. > Simply put, the list just works. And it works because we have all agreed on > how we're going to make it work. If you want to be part of the process and > want to live under the established standard that we're all happy with, fine > and welcome. So you say both follow normal channels to get the standard changes, and live with them as they are like everyone else does.. Which is it? Pick one. No, don't. I don't like the one I think you would pick. > But if all you want to do is rant over how we're not doing things the way > you think they should be done, then maybe the email list is not for you. Go > to the forums where you can use HTML to your hearts content. Rant? Me? No. The replies I have gotten, now those are some rants. And, no, I don't think I'll go to the forums, much. I hate the Web too much. > But don't keep trying to drag the list OT to justify your narrow position on > how the email list should work. I've tried to stop these OT threads, but everytime I do, someone says something that I have to defend myself on. I want this to be the last message I post in this manner. I want to talk about how my video playback is completely botched. I want to help others configure their new systems. I want to gather tips and suggestions for interesting setups and clever tricks at optimizing my network. What I don't want to do is argue with anyone about our opinions, which are inherently supposed to be different, but which I am forced to defend when it is taken as anything but just that: my opinion, not me saying what _your_ opinion should be. Now, everyone, please. Just calm down. Live and let live, and understand I'm just saying "hey, this is what I think", and the most I ever expected back was "yeah, well this is what i think", not "no, that isn't what you should think, think what everyone else thinks. you shouldnt think that, because you shouldnt try to change what everyone thinks, you cant do that. now, think what we tell you to or go away!" Now, please, don't reply to this. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
