martin-kokos wrote:
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Tuesday, September 12th, 2023 at 3:36 PM, Eddie Chapman
> <ed...@ehuk.net> wrote:
>
>> Sam James wrote:
>>
>>> "Eddie Chapman" ed...@ehuk.net writes:
>>>
>>>>>> So what's the situation with the current Gentoo maintainers?
>>>>>> Have
>>>>>> they disappeared? I often see on here packages being offered up
>>>>>> for grabs. Why hasn't there been a call to give others the
>>>>>> opportunity to volunteer as maintainers rather than going
>>>>>> straight to last riting the package? Or
>>>>>> has that happened and I've missed it, in which case I apologise.
>>>>>
>>>>> There was a year ago or so and nothing really came out of it. But
>>>>> see above wrt 'tags'.
>>>>
>>>> A year is a long time, there might well now be people willing to
>>>> take over maintaining it that were not willing to 1 year ago, if
>>>> that is what is required.
>>>
>>> They have a month to step up anyway, although that will involve
>>> upstream activity too.
>>
>> I see there was already a change in the tree yesterday that assumes
>> sys-fs/eudev is going (commit d46677fd864b30315423c8364ca44db2de98e2a1,
>> sys-fs/mdadm/mdadm-4.2-r2, amd64 stable keyworded). Has this actually
>> been decided behind the scenes already? This starts to smell a little
>> ugly unless I've completely misunderstood something. I hope I'm wrong.
>>
>> One thing I don't understand: the Gentoo project page for eudev lists 4
>>  members including the lead, and FWICT they are mostly still active in
>> other areas of Gentoo (recent commits to the tree in other packages).
>> The
>> project lead is also an original author of eudev. I find it hard to
>> believe that all 4 of these people have completely lost interest in
>> eudev in Gentoo. Have any of these 4 maintainers publicly said
>> (anywhere) that
>> they are not interested in being maintainers anymore (which is fine if
>> that is the case)? We're not talking here about a lone maintainer of
>> some peripheral package that's disappeared leaving an orphaned package.
>>
>> I'm an outsider to Gentoo development (just a heavy user for over a
>> decade both personally and professionally) so I might have missed
>> something. I just find it puzzling.
>
> I don't understand why there is need to go off of *hints and clues*
> whether its active development or whether the project maintainers want to
> maintain it or not. The project lead has explained the original reason for
> eudev being part of base and why that reason has passed. Issue decided 2
> years ago.
>
> https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-08-24-eudev-retirement.htm
> l
>
> If there were maintainers to suport it for 2 extra years, that's very
> nice of them. Speculating, without them, after their decision to
> last-rite and asking to support eudev indefinitely, without giving any
> insightful reason as to why, seems ... not a great way to motivate
> someone to do something extra for me.
>
> Martin
>

Thank you Martin and Sam for pointing out to me the news item above from 2
years ago, which for some reason I missed originally, so I wasn't aware
this is how the people listed as current maintainers felt.

This seems like a crucial piece of information that was sadly omitted from
the original last rite message.

Maybe there is a lesson here somewhere about communication and last riting
of core system packages.


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