"Eddie Chapman" <ed...@ehuk.net> writes:
> martin-kokos wrote: >> ------- Original Message ------- >> On Tuesday, September 12th, 2023 at 3:36 PM, Eddie Chapman >> <ed...@ehuk.net> wrote: >> >>> Sam James wrote: >>> >>>> "Eddie Chapman" ed...@ehuk.net writes: >>>> >>>>>>> So what's the situation with the current Gentoo maintainers? >>>>>>> Have >>>>>>> they disappeared? I often see on here packages being offered up >>>>>>> for grabs. Why hasn't there been a call to give others the >>>>>>> opportunity to volunteer as maintainers rather than going >>>>>>> straight to last riting the package? Or >>>>>>> has that happened and I've missed it, in which case I apologise. >>>>>> >>>>>> There was a year ago or so and nothing really came out of it. But >>>>>> see above wrt 'tags'. >>>>> >>>>> A year is a long time, there might well now be people willing to >>>>> take over maintaining it that were not willing to 1 year ago, if >>>>> that is what is required. >>>> >>>> They have a month to step up anyway, although that will involve >>>> upstream activity too. >>> >>> I see there was already a change in the tree yesterday that assumes >>> sys-fs/eudev is going (commit d46677fd864b30315423c8364ca44db2de98e2a1, >>> sys-fs/mdadm/mdadm-4.2-r2, amd64 stable keyworded). Has this actually >>> been decided behind the scenes already? This starts to smell a little >>> ugly unless I've completely misunderstood something. I hope I'm wrong. >>> >>> One thing I don't understand: the Gentoo project page for eudev lists 4 >>> members including the lead, and FWICT they are mostly still active in >>> other areas of Gentoo (recent commits to the tree in other packages). >>> The >>> project lead is also an original author of eudev. I find it hard to >>> believe that all 4 of these people have completely lost interest in >>> eudev in Gentoo. Have any of these 4 maintainers publicly said >>> (anywhere) that >>> they are not interested in being maintainers anymore (which is fine if >>> that is the case)? We're not talking here about a lone maintainer of >>> some peripheral package that's disappeared leaving an orphaned package. >>> >>> I'm an outsider to Gentoo development (just a heavy user for over a >>> decade both personally and professionally) so I might have missed >>> something. I just find it puzzling. >> >> I don't understand why there is need to go off of *hints and clues* >> whether its active development or whether the project maintainers want to >> maintain it or not. The project lead has explained the original reason for >> eudev being part of base and why that reason has passed. Issue decided 2 >> years ago. >> >> https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-08-24-eudev-retirement.htm >> l >> >> If there were maintainers to suport it for 2 extra years, that's very >> nice of them. Speculating, without them, after their decision to >> last-rite and asking to support eudev indefinitely, without giving any >> insightful reason as to why, seems ... not a great way to motivate >> someone to do something extra for me. >> >> Martin >> > > Thank you Martin and Sam for pointing out to me the news item above from 2 > years ago, which for some reason I missed originally, so I wasn't aware > this is how the people listed as current maintainers felt. > > This seems like a crucial piece of information that was sadly omitted from > the original last rite message. > > Maybe there is a lesson here somewhere about communication and last riting > of core system packages. I've just pushed https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=6d1669686c56dc7f05750d9b36db1c2f9001275a which I think should help. That's a fair point, thank you. It's also easy to forget that people might have missed an item etc.
