On 02/17/2016 09:54 AM, brettrse...@gmail.com wrote: > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Kohler <bkoh...@gmail.com> > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 08:01:32 > To: <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> > Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 7:55 AM, Richard Yao <r...@gentoo.org> wrote: > >> >> >> eudev has every commit scrutinized by people who care about using it on >> Gentoo. systemd-udev does not. Consequently, eudev has avoided the system >> boot breaking regressions that prompted its creation. That is a good reason >> to make it the new default. If it fails to fulfill its duties, then this >> could be revisited, but that should be unlikely. >> >> I think if someone could enumerate those specific breakages and present it > as evidence, that could get more people on board for this change. Moreso > than just "upstream doesn't care about us" or "eventually split udev will > be impossible". > > -Ben >
This is something that I think many of us who had systems broken by sys-fs/udev multiple times before sys-fs/eudev was an option thought was obvious. If a complete list of the breakages that lead to the creation of sys-fs/eudev were produced, I imagine that the list would have at least 3 to 5 items from the ~18 months before sys-fs/eudev with half of them were probably self inflicted by sys-fs/udev maintenance. I recall one incident involving whether udev should be in /sbin or /usr/sbin being resolved after 6 months of debate between then future eudev founders and sys-fs/udev maintainers only because the systemd developers told the sys-fs/udev maintainers it should be in /sbin like others had told them. Another broke support for older kernels for no apparent benefit (and this sort of regression naturally enters sys-fs/udev): https://github.com/gentoo/eudev/commit/eeb8d70a6b38f736febaa4c3b03e39b4c1193a6c There were other issues too, but I am unable to volunteer the time required to go through history to figure out what was broken, when and for how long.
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