On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 08:44:03 -0500 Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: > I'll admit this has been a bit of an emotional thread for me. I think > my frustration comes from the fact that it seems like the whole reason > that eudev exists is because people really strongly believe that > systemd isn't the right way to go, and yet those same people don't > seem to realize that others might feel just as strongly that eudev > isn't the right way to go. >
I started the replies with a simple +1, and that I had switched to eudev... No, "Down with the evil systemd.borg" comments As one of the few huge threads that I have been reading. It is you that has been taking this thread more in the direction of something akin to a preacher shouting we're all going to burn in hell for even considering switching the default. While you were obviously more emotional, Anthony was very calmly, and clearly refuting many of your statements. > Surely anybody suggesting switching to eudev as the default > virtual/udev provider had to have realized that this would create a > huge controversy. > BUT WHY DOES it have to be!!!!! Why can't we as a group simply respond to something like this with a simple +1, -1 and a few pros/cons Why must it become yet another shouting match. And I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but you have been leading the charge in that direction. > Even if standalone udev is a dead-end (something that is speculation > at this point), it isn't like the code that exists today will suddenly > stop working. Worst case we just have to change the default at a > later point in time. > > Even just kicking the can down the road has a lot of advantages: > 1. Everything works fine today. yes > 2. We don't know for sure that it will ever stop working. no, we don't > 3. Deferring a decision means we don't have to wage a huge battle > over which way the decision ought to go. As I pointed out above, you seem to be leading the battle charge. Why couldn't you have simply replied "-1 I use systemd like most other distros" and "It works for me as is" and leave it at that. > 4. If we do have to make a decision in the future, we'll have more > information to act on. > put off till tomorrow what you can avoid doing today... tsk, tsk, tsk IT IS A SIMPLE POLL of the possibility of switching the default VIRTUAL we were suppose to be talking about/voting on!!!! Sorry everyone for a little shouting of my own. -- Brian Dolbec <dolsen>