On Mon, 8 Feb 2016 10:08:22 +0100 Patrick Lauer <patr...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Ohey, > > I've opened a bug at: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=573922 > > The idea here is to change the order of the providers of virtual/udev. > For existing installs this has zero impact. > For stage3 this would mean that eudev is pulled in instead of udev. > > The rationale behind this is: > > * eudev is an in-house fork, and there's more than a dozen distros > already using it by default that are not us. Which is a little bit weird ... That's not an argument. I can also fork random system components. Would you consider that a reason to replace the defaults with our 'in-house' forks? > * Both udev and eudev have pretty much feature parity, so there won't be > any user-visible changes > > * udev upstream strongly discourages standalone udev (without systemd) > since at least 2012 > > (see for example: > https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-June/005516.html > https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/3/618 > ) > > So it'd be (1) following upstreams recommendations and (2) dogfooding > our own tools. I don't see any downsides to this :) I'm strongly against this, because: 1. It is a conflict-induced fork. As such, it will never be merged upstream and it will never be supported upstream. In fact, it is continually forces to follow upstream changes and adapt to them. eudev is more likely to break because of the Gentoo developer(s) working hard to merge upstream changes to their incompatible code. 2. Many of Gentoo users are programmers who appreciate the 'vanilla' API experience Gentoo often provides. Switching the defaults to a fork that is known to intentionally diverge from upstream goes against that principle. Programs written against eudev may not work correctly with upstream udev. 3. eudev has fallen behind systemd/udev more than once in the past, and caused visible breakage to users this way. 4. eudev is underdocumented, and the maintainer admits that 'he sucks at documenting'. In fact, did anyone even bother to note how far eudev diverges from upstream udev to this point? -- Best regards, Michał Górny <http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/>
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