On 10/20/2013 05:04 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:40 AM, hasufell <hasuf...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> On 10/20/2013 05:26 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >>> On 10/20/2013 04:22 PM, hasufell wrote: >>>> On 10/20/2013 04:40 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >>>>> On 10/20/2013 03:31 PM, hasufell wrote: >>>>>> On 10/20/2013 04:13 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >>>>>>> On 10/20/2013 01:26 PM, Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote: >>>>>>>>> * not related to the games team * no review whatsoever >>>>>>>>> from any dev on ebuilds that get pushed there >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is easy-fixable. It is enough to gentoo-games team to >>>>>>>> back to work on it together with community. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * low quality >>>>>>>> low quality of what? ebuilds? I bet, it is many >>>>>>>> lower-quality ebuilds in the tree. Or do you mean low >>>>>>>> quality of something else? Anyway, it is fixable too. >>>>>>>> Just let's start work on it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree. >>>>>> >>>>>>> It's better to work with the user community and join >>>>>>> efforts than having yet-another-shiny overlay. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Gamerlay is not related to the games team and this thread is >>>>>> not about gamerlay which is a project that has failed. I have >>>>>> zero interest to work on gamerlay. It would have to start >>>>>> with removing direct commit access of users. >>>> >>>>> This is not a great way to invite more users to participate. >>>>> If you intend to make the game overlay and team a >>>>> developer-only thing you are doing a great work. >>>> >>>> >>>> I am not sure if you have read my list of arguments in the first >>>> post. Sunrise is based on that very concept. No user has direct >>>> commit access to the reviewed repository, for good reason (not >>>> sure what you mean with "developer-only"). >>>> >>> >>> I was mainly referring to your way to exluding this community which >>> is already working on the gaming side of Gentoo. You shouldn't >>> ignore active contributors because their ebuilds happen to be of >>> lower quality. >> >> >> Thanks for your opinion on this. It's nice to see that my efforts of >> (unrequested) reviews on bugzilla, overlays, forums and sunrise makes >> you say that I ignore contributors. Especially those contributors who >> respond to or even request reviews (many don't even respond to >> unrequested reviews). >> >> Some people from gamerlay have made clear that they are not really >> interested in reviews, yet you want me to waste time on that? >> >> I don't think this discussion leads anywhere. > > He's just warning you not to ignore the existing community in your > attempt to create a new community project. It is good advice; take it > that way instead of responding to it as negative criticism. > > I think it might be a tough sell to get existing gamerlay contributors > to switch to this new "official" contribution process. If you started > working within that community, you may have better luck persuading > people to get on board. If you have no interest in doing that, just be > aware that you are excluding a significant base of contributors. > Thanks for explaining what I was trying to say :) Seems like there are people who understand what I am saying and I am not talking nonsense :)
-- Regards, Markos Chandras
