On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Peter Stuge <pe...@stuge.se> wrote: > Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: >> The policy is also because any ebuild relying on a network service >> to work cannot be assured to work at any point in time > > While noble, I think it is a bit naïve. Reality is that many if not > most ebuilds *anyway* rely on temporal things - such as a current > enough versions of portage, or a new enough profile, or tar and sed.
These are things that we have covered, generally speaking. @system will bring in tar and sed, and a minimum version of portage. Old profiles are tagged as deprecated, and users are encouraged to migrate to current profiles. The PMS defines which bits the ebuilds can use, and if a program needs a 'newer' sed, it should say so in its dependencies. We could add something like PROPERTIES="network" to packages that require the network. I'm vaguely sure for instance, that some src_test() phases require a functioning network to work properly. > > Requiring git and a network connection is the restriction imposed by > the copyright holder. There's really no way around that. I'm confused though, we can easily just make 2 ebuilds. linux-firmware[non-free] <- the use flag to toggle between free and non-free licenses. linux-firmware-noredist <- This one is RESTRICT="fetch mirror" RESTRICT="fetch mirror" already exists, has existed for years, and exists for exactly this purpose. > > >> depends on the network connection of the user, but it also depends >> on the service to be available. > > Right, because those files can only be legally distributed by the > service on the network. No matter how much you and I think that > sucks, it is still the only way for the user to get that file. > > It makes no sense to make that unneccessarily difficult for users. I don't think fetch restriction is that annoying. You could argue that we do it debian / ubuntu style where the files are fetched in a postinstall, but I think that is sort of hacky myself. > > >> So don't even _think_ about trying to ask for an exception for Git, >> because you'll have to have it over my ssh key. > > This is just trying to be a bully and acting like a drama queen, > which does nothing but make you look super silly, and that seems > completely unneccessary. > > If you dislike something then you should express that in a more > mature manner so that people can actually take you seriously. > > When you behave badly like this you just end up getting bad behavior, > spite and disrespect in return, even if it takes a while to reach you. > > > //Peter >
