On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:56:56 +0100
Jeroen Roovers <j...@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:40:06 +0100
> Michał Górny <mgo...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> > > People aren't bothering. It's not because of any fundamental
> > > problem -- it's because the process is obscure and potentially a
> > > waste of time.
> > 
> > I agree with that. The process takes a lot of time for a minor
> > benefit, and most of it doesn't prove really helpful. I think the
> > process should mostly prove that someone is able to find and read
> > docs, write ebuilds and understand the major concepts.
> 
> Please show me some numbers that prove your point about the recruitment 
> process
> having "little benefit".

Opinions don't come with numbers.

> > Honestly, I see no reason to ask recruits for a lot of things we do
> > right now. There's no point in telling them to summarize a large piece
> > of the docs. From my personal experience, there is a lot of things
> > which you learn and then forget because you don't need them for a
> > long time.
> 
> I could go all cynical here and give a few examples of how a couple of people
> recently got through and actually managed to mess up a few very basic
> things you would never contemplate quizzing them about.
> 
> But I would much rather see to it that those few bits get fixed, rather than
> the even greater mess we would be in if everybody with the "right mindset" got
> commit privileges. Since nobody's perfect, we already have enough work to do,
> thank you.

Doesn't this prove that the recruitment process fails to work?

If I were to throw random ideas, I'd think about letting new recruits
did all commits through a proxy (mentor?). Of course, it all would be
easier if we used git.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny

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