On 12/17/12 08:10, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 12/16/12 14:04, Markos Chandras wrote:
>> On 16 December 2012 16:57, Michael Orlitzky <mich...@orlitzky.com> wrote:
>>> Inspired by the number of packages being unmaintained -- why not use
>>> some of that bug bounty money to fix up the recruitment documentation
>>
>> Recruitment documentatiob? What does that mean?
>>
>>>      People still think of Gentoo as a ricer distro that's broken all
>>>      the time, when in reality, it's one of the most stable.
>>
>> Well that's not entirely true but that's a different issue
>>
> 
> The first part is definitely true. The stable part is also true in my
> experience, all things considered. For an example, take the last "what's
> your favorite distro" post on Reddit (not exactly a representative
> sample, I know):
> 
> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/14tpnt/of_all_the_distros_youve_ever_used_what_do_you/
> 
> Top rated comment:
> 
>   "Tie between Arch and Gentoo. These are my "messing around" distros.
>    Fun to install and tweak on older machines, but I don't know enough
>    about them to use them full time. Plus, Gentoo breaks. A lot. Arch
>    breaks much more often than Debian for me but much less than Gentoo."
> 
> Further down:
> 
>   "Gentoo is not stable. Stop saying that."
> 
> My experience mirrors Michael Mol's. Perception is bad. Reality not so much.

And then you look what people do to get to that conclusion ...

"I unmasked gcc-4.8, migrated back to glibc-2.5 so I could build
binaries for CentOS 5, and started from a sabayon install because it's
easier. My CFLAGS include make-faster things like -ffast-math and -O8"

Plus people don't look at warnings unless they are interactive prompts
that ask them so answer a question about the warning. So yeah, if you
hit things with a hammer they break. And we make it easy for people to
do that :)

On the other hand I could tell you about "Enterprise Distros" that patch
their gcc so badly that it is confused about its version, and many other
funny things.

Everything breaks at some point, I started using Gentoo because I was
able to fix that breakage, thus enabling me to use my computer instead
of just ranting about it. Internally, I think, we're doing ok, now we
just need to make our PR effective again (which has been an ongoing
project for half a decade ...)



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