On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 05:16:48AM +0100, Peter Stuge wrote > I hope that eudev wants to do the respectable thing for any fork, ie. > work hard to minimize the amount of wasted effort in both projects by > sharing much code and bugfixes.
That would be nice if systemd/udev upstream was agreeable. On the other hand, if the systemd/udev maintainers had accepted bug reports ("WONTFIX" is not acceptance) and had accepted proposed patches, there wouldn't have been a need for the eudev fork in the first place. Lennart Poettering has admitted systemd's outright hostility to to standalone udev... http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html > Well, we intent to continue to make it possible to run udevd outside > of systemd. But that's about it. We will ***NOT POLISH THAT, OR ADD > NEW FEATURES*** to that or anything. > > OTOH we do polish behaviour of udev when used *within* systemd > however, and that's our primary focus. > > And what we will ***CERTAINLY NOT DO IS COMPROMISE THE UNIFORM > INTEGRATION INTO SYSTEMD FOR SOME COSMETIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR > NON-SYSTEMD SYSTEMS***. > > (Yes, udev on non-systemd systems is in our eyes a dead end, in case > you haven't noticed it yet. I am looking forward to the day when we > can drop that support entirely.) They've essentially announced ahead of time that most bugs from non-systemd users would be closed with WONTFIX. Actually, for political reasons, I hope that eudev does submit a bunch bugs+patches, and gets them rejected. Then whenever anyone complains about not sharing code, show them a bunch of WONTFIX emails from systemd/udev maintainers. -- Walter Dnes <waltd...@waltdnes.org> I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications