On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 20:43 -0500, Stephen P. Becker wrote:
> How about getting some facts straight before running your mouth?  Gentoo 
> most certainly does not expect users to have a web browser to install. 
> The last time I actually installed on x86 (which was some time ago 
> admittedly), there was a .txt version of the install guide on the livecd.

Exactly.

> Even then, the web browser you are speaking of runs directly off the 
> livecd.  So, what happens when there is critical news to be read during 
> the install phase inside the chroot, but no web browser is yet 
> installed?  Are you suggesting we bloat stage1 and stage2 with some sort 
> of XML parser so that the user can read news without having to kill the 
> emerge and read the news outside the chroot?  I think you would have a 
> seriously hard time convincing the release folks this is a good idea.

We won't add more cruft to the stages.  We're already to the point of
trying to determine ways to reduce stage size, not increase it.

> Furthermore, it is not possible to include any sort of XML parser with 
> installers for certain arches which use very minimal netboots for the 
> default installation method.  So really, your complaints about the 
> "lightweight" requirement appears to just be a way of subverting 
> attention away from the real reasons it is a good idea, and towards 
> maintaining a flamewar with ciaran that you will surely lose.

What is it for SPARC again?  4MB for both kernel + initrd?

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
x86 Architecture Team
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux

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