Hi Justin, Thanks, it's clearer to me now. I updated the proposal according to your comments: - using only "Initial Committers" instead of the split between PPMC members and committers - slim down from 18 to 8 names
I give more time to this discussion today, I will move forward to a vote (as proposed by Dave) tonight or tomorrow morning (my time). Thanks Justin and Dave for your inputs ! Regards JB On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 4:23 AM Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > My issue is not that this is a single-vendor project or that people have been > recognised for non-code contributions - both are fine. I would suggest that > the project slims down the initial committer list and not split it into PPMC > and committers. As part of the incubating process, you can vote in new > committers and PPMC members for their contributions. > > Kind Regards, > Justin > > > On 2 Aug 2024, at 3:33 am, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote: > > > > Hi Dave, > > > > Thanks for your message. > > > > I'm a bit confused now: it seems that we have a consensus that the > > Polaris proposal is solid and correct (according to the number of > > positive feedback in this discussion so far). > > > > Justin expressed concerns, asking to update the proposal. As said, I > > understand the comment, and would be happy to change the proposal. > > > > Who's having the same concern and request to change the proposal ? > > Should we move forward to a vote with the current proposal as Dave proposed > > ? > > > > I don't want to frustrate anyone here. I have the feeling that if I > > don't change the proposal, at least Justin would not be happy, and, on > > the other hand, if I change the proposal, others would not be happy. > > So, I'm open to suggestions. > > > > I think the Polaris proposal is solid, the contributions (code and non > > code) are there, the community is small but eager to grow (and that's > > the purpose of the incubator). > > > > Regards > > JB > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 6:39 PM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Justin, > >> > >>> In short, this seems to me (and I could be wrong) like a project mostly > >>> from a single vendor, but the proposal has been made to make it look like > >>> more people are involved. It may well be that these people will be > >>> involved, but I’d prefer if the project was upfront about this and added > >>> committers the usual way during incubation. > >> > >> When and where should a “single vendor” collaborate on a common code > >> project? If we block “single vendor” projects from Incubation then it’s > >> time to start one of our periodic the Incubator is broken discussions. > >> > >> The Incubator has many retired podlings that failed to form a community. > >> That went from 3 or 4 to 1 or 0 community members. One example was > >> ODFToolkit which came in at the same time as OpenOffice.org. ODFToolkit > >> lingered for about 7 or 8 years. OpenOffice.org had an unusual anyone can > >> signup to be an Initial Committer which brought the number to 73! As the > >> current VP, OpenOffice I would not be wrong to say that the project would > >> be in the Attic if that approach were not taken. > >> > >>> In short, the initial commit list looks problematic to me. > >> > >> Podlings and PMCs are not one size fits all. > >> > >>> > >>> P.S. The repo landing page/readme has some ASF trademark issues that > >>> would be good to address. > >> > >> That is part of Incubation. > >> > >> Best, > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
