Hi Project Nessie (https://projectnessie.org/) is a catalog for data lakes, also implementing the Apache Iceberg REST spec. Nessie has some unique features like git-inspired data version control, multi-table transaction, catalog level versioning, etc. In order to build a larger community and provide a great experience to users, Nessie community decided to contribute Nessie features in Polaris.
Regards JB On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 2:18 PM roryqi <ror...@apache.org> wrote: > > Just curious. What's the relationship between Nessie and Polaris? > > Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> 于2024年7月31日周三 20:09写道： > > > Hi Justin, > > > > Thanks for your email. Much appreciated! > > > > I agree with the requirements to join the incubator, I share the same > > vision. > > > > The codebase is there, public, under the Apache license. So, I think > > we are good here :) > > > > About the community, it's a small one, but present, vibrant, and eager > > to grow. We have a lot of enthusiasm around this proposal (and also > > Polaris open source). I think it would be a great podling. > > > > The split between PPMC / ocmmitters is unusual because of the > > community build goal. The team had a lot of feedback and interest from > > different parties, including some Apache projects. > > When I prepared the proposal with the team (that included people > > listed in the PPMC), we wanted to involve anyone helping the project > > to grow. It's not necessary code contributions, it's everything to: > > 1. Help in the design (for instance Jack Ye is helping on the Apache > > Iceberg REST impl vision) > > 2. Help to grow the community by including other communities (for > > instance Anoop proposed to bridge with Apache XTable, John with Apache > > Kafka, Robert with Project Nessie) > > 3. Mentor committers and other PPMC (that's my role mostly :)) in > > addition of the regular mentor. For instance, Tyler could be a great > > mentor thanks to his experience on Apache Beam. > > > > So about the commits: > > - Polaris started on a private repo at Snowflake including code that > > it was not possible to push open source (Snowflake specific). So, we > > had to change the history to remove these commits and have a clean > > open source codebase > > - You are right, not all PPMC members have committed on the repo, same > > about the committers. The reason they are there is that either: > > 1. Their contributions are not code > > 2. Their contributions are not yet there, but they plan to contribute > > I think it happens pretty often to have people listed in the initial > > committers without commit (for instance, I think on Gravitino, Ashish > > Singh is on the initial committer list without a commit afair). > > > > I understand your comment, and it's important to me. > > If it's a concern for you, I'm happy to rework the initial committer > > list with the team (also removing PPMC list to use the default layout) > > and grow the PPMC/committers when in the incubator. > > > > Thoughts ? > > > > Regards > > JB > > > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 5:47 AM Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > In general, projects joining the incubator need two things: > > > - A codebase > > > - a community around it > > > > > > While this isn't a hard requirement, building either while in incubation > > can be difficult. > > > > > > The first issue I see is it’s not clear to me that there is a community > > here. > > > > > > The split between PPMC / committers is also unusual. > > > > > > It also seems there’s a disconnect between the people who have > > contributed to the project and those on the initial PMC/committer list. I > > understand history has been lost. Is there any reason why history wasn’t > > preserved? But given it comes from a single vendor, I would assume that the > > commits in the new repo would then give an accurate representation of who > > is involved from outside that vendor since the plan/announcement to make it > > open source. However looking at the commits, 80%+ of the people involved > > come from that single vendor which and most of the proposed PPMC/committers > > have no activity in the project. How have these people contributed? > > > > > > Looking closer, other than jbonofre or snazy, I can see these commits > > from non-Snowflake people, and that is it. > > > anoopj - 1 commit (fixing a basic typo) > > > ajantha-bhat - 2 commits (minor doc changes) > > > > > > From the information provided, it seems that a lot of the proposed PMCs > > have not been involved with the project at all. Mentors are there to help a > > project, adding extra existing PMC members to the PPMC to just help out is > > also rather unusual. So both the PPMC/committer split and the composition > > seem problematic to me. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > Justin > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
