ok for me, please go forward. On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 3:48 PM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <palomino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Jerry and Justin for asking here, are the current answers OK > for you guys? > > If no more concerns, I will start the vote recently. > > Thanks all for chimming in here! > > Yu Li <car...@gmail.com> 于2024年6月24日周一 17:58写道： > > > > Thanks all for the updated proposal and thorough discussions so far. > > > > I'm pleased to see the progress made on the project since the initial > > discussions a year ago. AFAICS the team has addressed most of the > previous > > concerns, thus I'm +1 for moving this forward. > > > > As a mentor, I am committed to guiding the project through its > incubation, > > ensuring it continues to develop in a vibrant and diverse direction and > > follows the Apache Way. > > > > Best Regards, > > Yu > > > > > > On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 at 11:20, Zhiyong Zhang <goodj...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > Thank you, Justin, for your questions. Regarding your three main > concerns, > > > here is the current situation: > > > > > > > > > + Over the past six months, external contributors (xiaotietietie, > > > kongniancp, etc.) have made several contributions, but still not > enough to > > > be included in the initial committers list. This is one of our main > works > > > after joining the incabator, to invite more PPMC members/committers > from > > > other companies/organizations. > > > > > > + We will revise the proposal accordingly. Our expectation is to follow > > > the Apache Way after entering the incubator, using mailing lists for > > > communication. Currently, we have not effectively utilized mailing > lists or > > > JIRA, primarily relying on GitHub issues for communication. > > > > > > + In the past six months, we have been actively attracting new > > > contributors both internally and externally. Since the last proposal > > > submission, we have added three new contributors (xiaotietietie, > > > littlepangdi, system-designer). Although the number of pull requests > from > > > external contributors is not high, we will continue to work on this. > The > > > increase in external contributors is also a testament to our efforts. > We > > > will further improve our documentation to lower the participation > > > threshold, organize more community activities, and attract more > > > contributors. We also hope to attract more third-party developers to > > > contribute during the incubation phase. > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > On 2024/06/18 07:00:20 Justin Mclean wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I have three main concerns: > > > > 1. All of the initial committers are from one company. > > > > 2. Very few contributors and just about all seem to be from the same > > > company (one or two with a couple of commits may not be) > > > > 3. The project activity has been quite low over the last 5 months > > > > > > > > I do not see this reflected in the proposal, e.g. "Outstanding > > > contributors are the cornerstone of this project, and they include not > only > > > developers from Xiaomi and other companies but also individual > developers > > > who are encouraged to contribute?” Where are these other companies and > > > developers? or "In this project, exceptional contributors are > recognized > > > and rewarded,“ Who has been rewarded and how? Also " It has also > attracted > > > members from different companies such as JD.com, Kwai, Shopee, and > others.” > > > Why are people from these companies not on the initial committer list > or > > > show up as making contributions? > > > > > > > > The proposal also states "The contributors of OzHera are actively > > > involved in Apache community projects, “, looking at the people > involved, > > > and I may have missed something, I’m not seeing a lot of activity in > ASF > > > projects. > > > > > > > > The proposal also also mentions "and every member can access the > project > > > roadmap, issues, and code through various channels such as mailing > lists > > > and JIRA” Where are these existing JIRA/lists? > > > > > > > > Under community, it states " broader promotion and participation from > > > companies and individuals.” this is a bit of a concern. Projects > should not > > > join the ASF because they want companies involved and for promotion > > > purposes. > > > > > > > > There are two main requirements to join the ASF incubator: one is to > > > have a small community, and the other is to have a code base. We may > still > > > need more on the community side here. The proposal, as written, seems > to > > > paint an overly optimistic picture of the project. Before considering > it > > > further, I would like to see it updated to reflect the actual reality > of > > > the current project and spell out the risks to community growth beyond > the > > > involvement of a single company. > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Justin > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
