Thanks all for the updated proposal and thorough discussions so far. I'm pleased to see the progress made on the project since the initial discussions a year ago. AFAICS the team has addressed most of the previous concerns, thus I'm +1 for moving this forward.
As a mentor, I am committed to guiding the project through its incubation, ensuring it continues to develop in a vibrant and diverse direction and follows the Apache Way. Best Regards, Yu On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 at 11:20, Zhiyong Zhang <goodj...@apache.org> wrote: > Thank you, Justin, for your questions. Regarding your three main concerns, > here is the current situation: > > > + Over the past six months, external contributors (xiaotietietie, > kongniancp, etc.) have made several contributions, but still not enough to > be included in the initial committers list. This is one of our main works > after joining the incabator, to invite more PPMC members/committers from > other companies/organizations. > > + We will revise the proposal accordingly. Our expectation is to follow > the Apache Way after entering the incubator, using mailing lists for > communication. Currently, we have not effectively utilized mailing lists or > JIRA, primarily relying on GitHub issues for communication. > > + In the past six months, we have been actively attracting new > contributors both internally and externally. Since the last proposal > submission, we have added three new contributors (xiaotietietie, > littlepangdi, system-designer). Although the number of pull requests from > external contributors is not high, we will continue to work on this. The > increase in external contributors is also a testament to our efforts. We > will further improve our documentation to lower the participation > threshold, organize more community activities, and attract more > contributors. We also hope to attract more third-party developers to > contribute during the incubation phase. > > ---- > > On 2024/06/18 07:00:20 Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have three main concerns: > > 1. All of the initial committers are from one company. > > 2. Very few contributors and just about all seem to be from the same > company (one or two with a couple of commits may not be) > > 3. The project activity has been quite low over the last 5 months > > > > I do not see this reflected in the proposal, e.g. "Outstanding > contributors are the cornerstone of this project, and they include not only > developers from Xiaomi and other companies but also individual developers > who are encouraged to contribute?” Where are these other companies and > developers? or "In this project, exceptional contributors are recognized > and rewarded,“ Who has been rewarded and how? Also " It has also attracted > members from different companies such as JD.com, Kwai, Shopee, and others.” > Why are people from these companies not on the initial committer list or > show up as making contributions? > > > > The proposal also states "The contributors of OzHera are actively > involved in Apache community projects, “, looking at the people involved, > and I may have missed something, I’m not seeing a lot of activity in ASF > projects. > > > > The proposal also also mentions "and every member can access the project > roadmap, issues, and code through various channels such as mailing lists > and JIRA” Where are these existing JIRA/lists? > > > > Under community, it states " broader promotion and participation from > companies and individuals.” this is a bit of a concern. Projects should not > join the ASF because they want companies involved and for promotion > purposes. > > > > There are two main requirements to join the ASF incubator: one is to > have a small community, and the other is to have a code base. We may still > need more on the community side here. The proposal, as written, seems to > paint an overly optimistic picture of the project. Before considering it > further, I would like to see it updated to reflect the actual reality of > the current project and spell out the risks to community growth beyond the > involvement of a single company. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Justin > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
