> For projects in incubation, is it no longer necessary for the project name to > have the "incubator-" prefix as it used to be?
Thanks to the Apache members for responding. It make me know that this issue is being looked into. > I wonder if the situation of having a significant amount of non-English > languages in the codes, like these > https://github.com/apache/hertzbeat/blob/master/warehouse/src/main/java/org/apache/hertzbeat/warehouse/config/WarehouseProperties.java, > https://github.com/apache/hertzbeat/blob/master/common/src/main/java/org/apache/hertzbeat/common/entity/manager/NoticeRule.java, > https://github.com/apache/hertzbeat/blob/master/common/src/main/java/org/apache/hertzbeat/common/config/AviatorConfiguration.java > ... > , will all of them also be addressed in the future? I would also like to receive a response from Apache regarding this issue of a significant amount of non-English language in codes. ________________________________ From: tison <wander4...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 5:16 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org <general@incubator.apache.org> Subject: Re: Questions about a new project entering Apache Incubator And [1] is actually update the community docs without INFRA changes. Previously (and now?), foo.incubator.apache.org has the same content with foo.apache.org unless you explicitly ask INFRA to change. Like even https://flink.incubator.apache.org/. I guess the main "pain point" is whimsy Web check checks " foo.incubator.apache.org" in config in some file on SVN before, and thus cause the Web check having a red mark. Best, tison. tison <wander4...@gmail.com>于2024年4月17日 周三17:02写道： > I vote in [1] since it's how we practice for quite a while and it's a > clear consensus by the vote. > > All the repo of podlings have incubator- prefix, I don't see a motivation > to change. > > In [2] it says: > > > make less work for Infra > > I wonder if INFRA complained for this process. And what is the associated > JIRA ticket in INFRA to do the rename. I'd like to take INFRA's opinion > into consideration. > > In my previous experience, keep the name "foo", let INFRA move the repo, > rename it to "incubator-foo", and drop the prefix on graduation. In this > way, the link "apache/foo" will always work with GH redirections. > > To John: > > > , it can be confusing that they do. > > What is the certain redirection causing your confusion? > > Best, > tison. > > [1] > https://lists.apache.org/thread/n18gkb23bp005gb176jnwo2nrxty3z84 > [2] > https://github.com/apache/amoro/issues/2700 > > > Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>于2024年4月17日 周三12:09写道： > >> This is not to get the conclusion, and it is not clear, and many other >> project repositories are with this prefix. >> >> >> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/transferring.html#first_steps_outside_the_incubator >> (tison >> found) >> >> Graduation doc is there indicating incaubtor- prefix is expected. This is >> just a 10s operation on GitHub admin page, not a heavy work. Graduation is >> not happening every day, even not every month. Developer don't have to >> change remote git, as that redirect forward is supported too. >> >> More importantly, I don't agree this is clear without prefix. >> >> This us serious change, if you inist this is clear, start a vote. A lot of >> ppl in this context don't agree too. >> >> Sheng Wu 吴晟 >> >> Apache SkyWalking >> Twitter, wusheng1108 >> >> >> Justin Mclean <justinmcl...@gmail.com>于2024年4月17日 周三11:59写道： >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > Both of these projects are new and just getting set up. I'd give them a >> > little time to do that. Infra in recent years have asked to minimise >> work >> > for them on graduation. We recently dropped the requirement for having >> > incubating in podling domain names so I don't see it's needed in repo >> names >> > as long as it clear the project is an incubating project. >> > Kind Regards, >> > Justin >> > >> > >> > On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, 1:47 pm Willem Jiang, <willem.ji...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > > With the "incubator" profix, it's easy for us to tell if the project >> > > belongs to the incubator and it is still in the incubating process. >> > > Currently I cannot find any disclaimer document[1] in the repo root >> > > directory from [2][3] to tell if they are still in the incubator or >> > > not. >> > > >> > > [1]https://incubator.apache.org/policy/incubation.html#disclaimers >> > > [2]https://github.com/apache/amoro >> > > [3]https://github.com/apache/hertzbeat >> > > >> > > Willem Jiang >> > > >> > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 11:06 AM Calvin Kirs <k...@apache.org> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Podlings are not yet fully accepted as part of the Apache Software >> > > > Foundation. >> > > > >> > > > I haven't specifically witnessed any formal decision or process for >> > > > removing the "incubator" prefix from repository names. >> > > > >> > > > Unless there are compelling reasons to remove the "incubator" >> prefix, I >> > > > believe it's important to maintain a clear distinction between >> Podlings >> > > and >> > > > TLPs, especially in situations where confusion is likely to arise. >> > > > >> > > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 10:32 AM Sheng Wu < >> wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Same mistake for Armoro as Hertzbeat team was misguided from >> > > > > https://github.com/apache/amoro/issues/2700 >> > > > > >> > > > > This is not discussed AFAIK, and the description is not correct. >> > > > > GitHub supported renaming and repository path forward >> automatically >> > > > > years ago. apache/incubator-foo -> apache/foo is transparent and >> both >> > > > > addresses work. >> > > > > >> > > > > This should not be changed randomly considering many other >> projects >> > > > > are using incubator- prefix. This renaming causes confusion. IPMC >> are >> > > > > making sure the website has `incubating` and disclaimer as always, >> > > > > suddenly some projects even could use repository names without >> > > > > prefixes. This is wrong. >> > > > > >> > > > > Mentors of Armoro and Hertzbeat should follow the existing >> > > > > requirements, and PPMC members of these two projects should ask >> INFRA >> > > > > to rename, adding the incubator- prefix back. >> > > > > >> > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 >> > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 >> > > > > >> > > > > Xuanwo <xua...@apache.org> 于2024年4月17日周三 10:19写道： >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > For projects in incubation, is it no longer necessary for the >> > > project >> > > > > > > name to have the "incubator-" prefix as it used to be? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Based on the discussions in this mailing list, the only change >> made >> > > is >> > > > > the removal of `incubator` from the domain. Now, users access ` >> > > > > polding.apache.org` instead of `polding.incubator.apache.org` by >> > > default. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > The project and releases are still required to include >> "incubator", >> > > and >> > > > > it's important for the PPMC to clearly communicate that this >> project >> > > > > remains under incubation. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > In this case, I believe Hertzbeat PPMC made a mistake. I will >> > suggest >> > > > > they rename it to incubator-hertzbeat. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, at 14:23, rat O wrote: >> > > > > > > First of all, congratulations to HertzBeat for successfully >> > > entering >> > > > > > > the Apache Incubator. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I noticed that the project has created an issue for an unknown >> > > license >> > > > > > > and is ready to address it. I'm sure the project will also >> > address >> > > > > > > other unknown licenses, if they exist. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I wonder if the situation of having a significant amount of >> > > non-English >> > > > > > > languages in the codes, like these >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> https://github.com/apache/hertzbeat/blob/master/warehouse/src/main/java/org/apache/hertzbeat/warehouse/config/WarehouseProperties.java >> > > > > , >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> https://github.com/apache/hertzbeat/blob/master/common/src/main/java/org/apache/hertzbeat/common/entity/manager/NoticeRule.java >> > > > > , >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> https://github.com/apache/hertzbeat/blob/master/common/src/main/java/org/apache/hertzbeat/common/config/AviatorConfiguration.java >> > > > > > > ... >> > > > > > > , will all of them also be addressed in the future? >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > For projects in incubation, is it no longer necessary for the >> > > project >> > > > > > > name to have the "incubator-" prefix as it used to be? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > -- >> > > > > > Xuanwo >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Best wishes！ >> > > > CalvinKirs >> > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > >> > > >> > >> >
