> On Dec 17, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Andrew Ko <andrew...@agedb.io> wrote:
>
> Hello John,
>
> The number 68 includes
>
> -
>
> 28 code contributors who submitted pull requests that were merged.
> -
>
> 40+ who identified bugs, influenced the project with strong and informed
> opinion, answered AGE users’ questions, helped with code snippets to
> clarify how to use AGE.
Non-code contributors are also candidates to be committers. They can do the
many non-code activities.
That is how I was able to join my first PMC over 13 years ago. Answering
questions.
>
> Because of the nature of the project, committers require a broad range of
> expertise in several areas including: Database (Postgres and SQL), Graph
> Technology and Cyper, C language. While many contributors demonstrated
> expertise in some areas, few had expertise in all disciplines. In addition
> we restricted committer status to those who demonstrated consistent
> contribution to the project over many months and across multiple and
> diverse challenges. We felt this was the most prudent way to build a strong
> and tight community.
IMO - You are setting the committer bar too high. If the contributor has some
expertise that’s good. Remember you want this project to survive for a long
time. If you set it too high then people will lose interest.
Many months is good.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Andrew Ko
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 11:12 AM John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Putting aside this subproject for a moment I am concerned with your
>> contributor vs committer counts. If you’ve had 68 contributors why are the
>> numbers for new committers and PPMC so low?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 21:08 Eya Badal <e...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Willem,
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your feedback. There have been four official
>>> Apache releases for the Apache AGE (incubating) project. AGE Viewer is a
>>> sub-project of Apache AGE. As I know, the AGE viewer sub-project will
>> start
>>> the process for the first Apache release today or tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Eya
>>>
>>> On 2021/12/17 01:12:55 Willem Jiang wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I just found out that we don't have the Apache release of AGE viewer,
>>>> even though there are a bunch of tags in github[1].
>>>> I also found the recent change[1] in master. It looks like we just
>>>> addressed the License issue during the release of 0.6.0.
>>>> The release process documentation[1] should be hosted on the website
>>>> of age.apache.org instead of using a good drive[3] to host.
>>>>
>>>> It's quite important that we learn to follow the Apache release
>>>> policies during the incubation process.
>>>>
>>>> Please double check with the mentors for the release of AGE viewer.
>>>>
>>>> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age-viewer/tags
>>>> [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-age/pull/157/files
>>>> [3]
>>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zvAESVg7fRdSsxUuuOc3rHMkHcaOF28j/view?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>
>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:04 AM Eya Badal <badal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Having passed the Community Graduation Vote [1] by the AGE community
>>> with a
>>>>> vote result to graduate the incubation [2], our assessment is that
>>> Apache
>>>>> AGE (Incubating) is ready to graduate as a TLP.
>>>>>
>>>>> We would like to raise the topic for discussion with the IPMC.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition to building and releasing software the Apache way, the
>> AGE
>>>>> project community has grown in the following areas:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Close to 900 commits
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> 68 unique contributors
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 new committers and 1 new PPMC from 3 different
>>> companies/institutions
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Gathered > 500 GitHub stars
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 Apache releases (0.3.0, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.6.0) [3]
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> 6 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 4 committers
>>> (mentors
>>>>> and PPMC members excluded)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Contributions span more than 20 countries across the globe
>> including
>>>>> Australia, Belarus, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Ireland,
>>> Israel,
>>>>> Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Nigeria, The Philippines,
>>> Russia, South
>>>>> Korea, Thailand, UK, Ukraine, USA, and Vietnam
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Developed and maintained Apache AGE website [4]
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Created and automated documentation to support multiple versions
>> of
>>> AGE.
>>>>> [5]
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Developer conversations at d...@age.apache.org
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> Assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix [6]
>>> and
>>>>> didn't find any issues
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q2cgbnhvpzk2k0m8yfh89lzc75qym9k9
>>>>>
>>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lr3x9bm8jyv6o5kvyh7cf3tyxrpp2kwm
>>>>>
>>>>> [3] Release at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#> under
>> the
>>>>> Releases menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> [4] https://age.apache.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> [5] Documentation at Apache AGE website <https://age.apache.org/#>
>>> under
>>>>> the Documentation menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> [6] Apache Project maturity matrix at Apache AGE website
>>>>> <https://age.apache.org/#> under the COMMUNITY menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what
>> you
>>>>> think.
>>>>>
>>>>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Establish the Apache AGE Project
>>>>>
>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
>> of
>>>>>
>>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>>> establish
>>>>>
>>>>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
>>> maintenance
>>>>>
>>>>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>>>>>
>>>>> related to combining the most widely-adopted graph query open
>>> technology
>>>>>
>>>>> with one of the most advanced relational database system software.
>>>>>
>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>>>>>
>>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache AGE Project", be and hereby is
>>>>>
>>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is responsible
>> for
>>>>>
>>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to combining the
>> most
>>>>>
>>>>> widely-adopted graph query open technology with one of the most
>>> advanced
>>>>>
>>>>> relational database system software.; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache AGE" be and
>> hereby
>>>>>
>>>>> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
>> of
>>>>>
>>>>> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache AGE Project, and to
>>>>>
>>>>> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
>>>>>
>>>>> scope of responsibility of the Apache AGE Project; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>>>>>
>>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache AGE Project:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Dehowe Feng <deho...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Eya Badal <e...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Felix Cheung <felixche...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Jasper Blues <jas...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * John Gemignani <jgemign...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Josh Innis <joshin...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Juan Pan <panj...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Kevin Ratnasekera <djkevi...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Mason Sharp <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Raphael Bircher <rbirc...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Suneel Marthi <smar...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Von Gosling <vongosl...@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Eya Badal be appointed
>> to
>>>>>
>>>>> the office of Vice President, Apache AGE, to serve in accordance with
>>>>>
>>>>> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
>>> of
>>>>>
>>>>> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>>>>>
>>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>> further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache AGE Project be and hereby is tasked with
>> the
>>>>>
>>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator AGE podling;
>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>> Incubator
>>>>>
>>>>> AGE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
>>>>>
>>>>> Eya, on behalf of the Apache AGE (incubating) community
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