Thanks for your input, Julian and Bertrand!
Unless there's anything else that needs to be discussed, I guess we can
close this [DISCUSS] thread, start a vote to graduate Hop without Ricardo
on the PMC, and vote him in after graduation.

Regards,
Bart

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 9:14 PM Julian Hyde <jhyde.apa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for doing the research, Bertrand. That thread describes a case
> (from 2019) that is virtually identical to this one.
>
> I recommend Hop does the same as that case: remove that person’s name from
> the resolution, and vote them in as a PMC member after graduating. Since
> the effect is the same, they can do that without requiring a vote on
> dev@hop.
>
> For the record, my reading of the thread is that resolutions MAY include
> non-Apache people but the candidate project removed the non-Apache people
> from the resolution in order to accommodate limitations in the tooling.
>
> Julian
>
>
> > On Nov 29, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:56 PM Julian Hyde <jhyde.apa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> ...Let’s just assume that it’s OK to include people with non-Apache
> email addresses in the graduation resolution...
> >
> > I don't think that's the case, in previous similar cases Board members
> > asked for the resolutions to be modified to avoid including non-apache
> > email addresses [1].
> >
> > it's very easy for the PMC to fix that as soon as it's created, by
> > voting in the "missing" member. To me that's the safe option here.
> >
> > -Bertrand
> >
> > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/v7b1l27zf1xbkm45y8ryzs6pc0dwcl9g
> > (accessible to PMC chairs and ASF Members)
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