Hi Justin, As a board member, I'm not comfortable with granting a blanket exception to policy that might put us at legal risk.
As an IPMC member, I think that we do not want to allow podlings to release material that might put us at legal risk. I do think that the IPMC under today's policy has the ability to decide whether a podling release puts us at risk and therefore should be blocked. So I am not convinced that the IPMC needs to ask for this waiver from the board. My understanding as an IPMC member is that there are some items in a release that can be allowed where they would not be in a TLP release. These things have historically drawn -1 votes from IPMC members. I think there is consensus that a podling release does not have to conform in every respect to what we expect from a TLP release. I think that the incubator IPMC should first flesh out (on the general@ list) which materials in a podling release are a) fine; b) minor issue (file a JIRA and fix before graduation); or c) blocker (puts the foundation at risk). The detail of what is minor versus what it a blocker is the most important thing that needs clarity. As of now, I don't see consensus although I see movement. Craig > On Jun 6, 2019, at 11:45 PM, Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > As suggested I’ve collated information from several threads and turned it > into a proposal for the board. Any edits, feedback, agreement, disagreement > etc etc is welcome. In particular it would be nice to hear some feedback > from people who are in favour of this. > > Note that this is important as it probably changes the advice mentors will > give their podlings on releases and change in a positive way how we vote on > releases with serious issues in them. If you are a mentor or vote on releases > please read it. Again feedback welcome. > > If the board agrees with the proposal I think we'll need to update the > incubator DISCLAIMER. I’ve suggested what we might add in the proposal but > the exact changes can to be discussed here. If the board disagrees with the > proposal I suggest we discuss and come up with a list of serious issues that > the IPMC recommends voting -1 vote on a release. This is just guidance, not > rules, and there may of course be exceptions. (For instance you could ask VP > legal for an exception as has been done in the past.) That way mentors and > podlings have clear expectations on releases must contain. > > The proposal can be found in the draft board report. [1] > > Thanks, > Justin > > 1. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/June2019 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > Craig L Russell c...@apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
