Hi, Sheng & Huxing All these repos under my personal Github id has already been donated to ASF since incubation. I think they are just backups at that time, now we all work on https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-website, I even forgot their existence.
I will delete the following repos permanently now: chickenlj/dubbo-dev-book-en chickenlj/dubbo-user-book-en chickenlj/dubbo-user-book chickenlj/dubbo-dev-book chickenlj/dubbo-admin-book-en chickenlj/dubbo-admin-book Jun > On Apr 29, 2019, at 5:44 PM, Huxing Zhang <hux...@apache.org> wrote: > > Hi, > > I have summarized it here: > > Dubbo code base: https://github.com/alibaba/dubbo has been > transferred to https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo > Spring Boot Support: > https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-spring-boot-project has been > transferred to https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-spring-boot-project > Dubbo Admin Console: https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-ops has been > transferred to https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-admin > Json RPC extension: https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-rpc-jsonrpc has > been transferred to > https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-rpc-jsonrpc, and further > merged into incubator-dubbo, which can be deleted. > Home Page: https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo.github.io, as summarized > before, this repo hosts dubbo.io which has been redirected to > https://dubbo.apache.org, and it will be deleted before May 31. > > Dubbo Documentation: > - User guide: https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-user-book-en > - Developer guide: https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-dev-book-en > - Admin guide: https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-admin-book-en > Dubbo Documentation (Chinese) > - User guide: https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-user-book > - Developer guide: https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-dev-book > - Admin guide: https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-admin-book > > These have been transferred to > https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-docs, and further merged to > https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-website. > I have noticed that https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-user-book-en has > been redirected to an archived project > https://github.com/chickenlj/dubbo-user-book-en. I've no idea how this > is happened, I think it should be removed. > > Samples/Demo: > - https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-feature-test has been transferred to > https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-feature-test > - https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-docker-sample has been moved to > https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-samples and then deleted > - https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-http-demo has been moved to > https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-samples and then deleted > - https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-ws-demo has been moved to > https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-samples/ and then deleted > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 5:06 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> I am just asking the question about the repo in the proposal. >> Because all repo(s) in the proposal should have been moved into ASF. >> Could you add the status of all repo in your WIKI page? >> >> Sheng Wu 吴晟 >> >> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin >> Twitter, wusheng1108 >> >> >> Huxing Zhang <hux...@apache.org> 于2019年4月29日周一 下午4:59写道： >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 2:29 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi >>>> Branding issues should be improved now. No concern for that. >>>> >>>> But, I have a question, which also needs the Dubbo community to clear. >>>> >>>> In the Dubbo incubator proposal[1], there are several repositories >>>> in Initial Source >>>> - https://github.com/chickenlj/dubbo-dev-book-en [archieved in >>> chickenlj[2] >>>> personal repo] >>>> - https://github.com/chickenlj/dubbo-admin-book-en [archieved in >>> chickenlj >>>> personal repo] >>>> - https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-docker-sample [404] >>>> - https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-http-demo [404] >>>> ...(and several others repos) >>>> >>>> Also, chickenlj[3] can't be found in Dubbo team[4]. Maybe really 'can't`, >>>> but I can't find a match by name(ken or ken.lj). >>>> >>>> Could someone tell me what is going on? >>> >>> chickenlj is Jun Liu, who has been listed on the PMC members. You can >>> find it in the resolution proposal. >>> I do not quite understand, what is the concern here? >>> >>>> Are these being included in the Dubbo website document, already? >>> >>> Yes. dubbo-dev-book-en, dubbo-admin-book-en, and etc. has been >>> transferred here[1], which just contains the documentation. >>> After Dubbo joins incubator, a new Dubbo website has been created, and >>> all the documentation has been merged into [2] >>> >>>> Or the proposal changed. >>> >>> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-docs >>> [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo-website >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DubboProposal >>>> [2] https://github.com/chickenlj/dubbo-dev-book-en >>>> [3] https://github.com/chickenlj >>>> [4] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/developers_dev.html >>>> >>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 >>>> >>>> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin >>>> Twitter, wusheng1108 >>>> >>>> >>>> Huxing Zhang <hux...@apache.org> 于2019年4月28日周日 下午11:05写道： >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I am wrapping the latest update from Dubbo community. >>>>> >>>>> - The avator of dubbo[1] group has been deleted >>>>> - The description of dubbo group has been rename as Eco System For >>> Apache >>>>> Dubbo >>>>> - A new group called thubbo[2] has been created >>>>> - All projects under dubbo group are renamed in xxx-for-apache-dubbo >>>>> format in compliance with the policies >>>>> - For the 19 projects remaining in dubbo group, the Dubbo community >>>>> has contacted all the project owners, and got response from 18 >>>>> projects[3]. Among them, >>>>> * 14 projects will be transferred to ASF (13 of them will be >>>>> transferred by May 31st, 1 project will be transferred by June 30th) >>>>> * 3 projects will be transferred outside dubbo group, with all >>>>> branding issues cleared. >>>>> * 1 project (dubbo.github.io) will be deleted by May 31st. (redirect >>>>> dubbo.io to dubbo.apache.org via dns) >>>>> * The remaining 1 project (intellij-idea-plugin) will be transferred >>>>> to thubbo group if no response is received. >>>>> * The detailed status has been summarized here[4]. >>>>> * If any project failed to be transferred before ETA, it will be >>>>> transferred to thubbo group instead. >>>>> >>>>> Given that all project has given ETA to be transferred to ASF/outside >>>>> dubbo, a suggestion is given that there is no need to move the >>>>> projects to thubbo group unless they are not transferred before ETA. >>>>> >>>>> The Dubbo community is seeking comments from the IPMC that whether >>>>> this proposal is OK or not. Any feedback will be appreciated. Hope >>>>> this could clear the concern from IPMC. >>>>> >>>>> [1] https://github.com/dubbo >>>>> [2] https://github.com/thubbo >>>>> [3] >>>>> >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c8dc772242181517e3159d583c6aa7d1fcf5ce6f321ebb9e882ab6ad@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E >>>>> [4] >>>>> >>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 2:46 PM Huxing Zhang <hux...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 2:10 PM Ian Luo <ian....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dave & Others, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This "3rd party" site (https://github.com/dubbo) is used for >>> building >>>>>>> Dubbo's eco-system. Just as you said, It contains both the projects >>>>> which >>>>>>> will be donated and which may not, so the final goal for this "3rd >>>>> party" >>>>>>> site is pretty clear: it will contain and only contain projects >>> won't >>>>>>> donate, and if there's no project left eventually, this site does >>> not >>>>>>> necessarily exist. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What we're doing now is to solve the potential branding issues, in >>>>> order to >>>>>>> answer the challenges from whom wearing the trademark committee >>> hat. >>>>> It is >>>>>>> an ad-hoc actions since we need to solve this particular issue as >>>>> quickly >>>>>>> as possible. Here're what we are doing as short-term actions: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Rename dubbo group to other name. - not yet >>>>>> >>>>>> Or create a new group and move all the projects to it, left dubbo as >>>>>> an empty group. (The purpose is just to ensure nobody is trying to >>>>>> abuse it) >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Stop using Dubbo logo as group's avatar - done >>>>>>> 3. Rename all project names in compliance with the policies - >>> ongoing >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At the same time, I strongly agree with what Dave suggested for the >>>>> long >>>>>>> run plan. Here's what I propose (certainly this plan needs to be >>> vote >>>>> in >>>>>>> dubbo's mailing list): >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. All projects will be transferred to Apache group with ETA >>>>>> >>>>>> I will try to discuss this with the project owners and Dubbo >>> community >>>>>> to work out a ETA. >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. After that, all members in this group will be join Apache if >>> they >>>>> are >>>>>>> willing to (after they go through the vote certainly) >>>>>> >>>>>> As long as the project is under ASF, anyone can become committer by >>>>>> earning enough merit. >>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. After the transition is done, this particular group will be >>> deleted >>>>>> >>>>>> +1. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will init the vote for the long term plan in dubbo's community >>>>> today, and >>>>>>> we will get back with the concrete transition plan with ETA to the >>>>> board >>>>>>> meeting as soon as possible. I hope we can satisfy the IPMC by >>> doing >>>>> this. >>>>>>> Pls. let me know if this is sufficient. We can adjust the plan if >>> any >>>>>>> further suggestion comes up. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the Dubbo community can deliver an improved version of [1] to >>>>>> IPMC, by filling all the blanks and with a new column ETA. >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] >>>>> >>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> -Ian. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 12:29 AM Dave Fisher < >>> dave2w...@comcast.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (With trademark committee hat) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Trademark resources can all be found from here: >>>>>>>> Trademark resources sitemap: >>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources >>>>>>>> PMC responsibility: >>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/responsibility >>>>>>>> Improper third party uses: >>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/responsibility#police >>>>>>>> Formal policy: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don’t think that there is a formal policy to handle the >>> situation >>>>> where >>>>>>>> a transitional, "3rd party” site controlled by the PMC exists >>> that >>>>> will be >>>>>>>> phased out. Generally trademarks is looking for that PMC to be >>>>> working with >>>>>>>> and engaging 3rd parties to fix any branding issues. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think it is important to know what the goal is for the "3rd >>> party" >>>>> site >>>>>>>> is and when that will be achieved. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (Dubbo mentor hat) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think that rather than quickly responding by fixing various >>> issues >>>>> in an >>>>>>>> ad hoc manner it would be good to present the long term plan and >>>>> then agree >>>>>>>> on the needed language on the “3rd party site” >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For example, the treatment of “product” that will be donated >>> into the >>>>>>>> project codebase differs from “product” that won’t be. The “for >>>>> Apache >>>>>>>> Dubbo” makes no sense for product that will be moved into Dubbo. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The next board meeting is May 15th and there is time to carefully >>>>> address >>>>>>>> the plan to the satisfaction of the IPMC. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 8:51 AM, Sheng Wu < >>> wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Could somebody point me to Apache documentation that indicates >>>>> that >>>>>>>>> such use of names of Apache projects is not ok? I might need >>> that >>>>>>>>> information soon-ish myself, thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I used to read this from incubator discussions. Zipkin and >>>>> SkyWalking >>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>>> facing that question. Could someone help about this? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin >>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jan Piotrowski <piotrow...@gmail.com> 于2019年4月24日周三 下午11:29写道： >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Semi OT: >>>>>>>>>> Could somebody point me to Apache documentation that indicates >>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> such use of names of Apache projects is not ok? I might need >>> that >>>>>>>>>> information soon-ish myself, thanks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -J >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Am Mi., 24. Apr. 2019 um 17:07 Uhr schrieb Sheng Wu < >>>>>>>>>> wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 4. We plan to rename all projects in this organization to >>>>>>>>>>>> xxx-for-apache-dubbo >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The rename makes sense for ecosystem projects, especially for >>>>> these >>>>>>>>>> three. >>>>>>>>>>> I also used to see the traditional rename to >>>>> xxx-for-apache-project >>>>>>>>>>> 1. js, https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo2.js >>>>>>>>>>> 2. python, https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-client-py >>>>>>>>>>> 3. php, https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo-php-framework >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, please pay attention to this[1]. This is a release >>>>> repo(npm), the >>>>>>>>>>> description in Chinese, I assume it related to [2]. Right? >>>>>>>>>>> If yes, this release dist should be renamed. SkyWalking used >>> to >>>>> be >>>>>>>> asked >>>>>>>>>>> stop in the same case. >>>>>>>>>>> Because it misguides user this is Apache release, which >>> isn't. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://www.npmjs.com/package/dubbo2.js >>>>>>>>>>> [2] https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo2.js >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin >>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> 于2019年4月24日周三 >>> 下午10:46写道： >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. We will remove the organization avatar >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. We are ready to rename organization name from 'dubbo' to >>>>> other >>>>>>>>>> name >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Because of action 2, we will also lose the domain name >>>>>>>>>>>> dubbo.github.io, >>>>>>>>>>>>> but it also makes things easier, since we don't need to >>> keep >>>>> website >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>> this group >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. We plan to rename all projects in this organization to >>>>>>>>>>>>> xxx-for-apache-dubbo >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please discuss with your community, then make the decision. >>> I >>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> reply >>>>>>>>>>>> the Huxing's. Transfer the repos in the org(except the >>>>>>>> dubbo.github.io >>>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>>>> if the community wants), is also a good idea. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think both you and Huxing have been clear about my >>> concern. I >>>>> trust >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> Dubbo community could make it right. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin >>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ian Luo <ian....@gmail.com> 于2019年4月24日周三 下午10:16写道： >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those two are good options. Please read my prev reply[1], >>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>> concerns me >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Website codebase. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. GitHub org name and logo. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheng, If your concerns here are confirmed to be >>> disallowed, >>>>> we will >>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> following things against dubbo group: >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. We will remove the organization avatar >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. We are ready to rename organization name from 'dubbo' to >>>>> other >>>>>>>> name >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Because of action 2, we will also lose the domain name >>>>>>>>>> dubbo.github.io >>>>>>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>>>>> but it also makes things easier, since we don't need to >>> keep >>>>> website >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>> this group >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. We plan to rename all projects in this organization to >>>>>>>>>>>>> xxx-for-apache-dubbo >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know if your concerns will be completely addressed >>> once >>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> actions >>>>>>>>>>>>> above are made. Before it, I'd like to confirm with our >>>>> mentors and >>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully get back to you soon. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Ian. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 7:56 PM Huxing Zhang < >>>>> hux...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:01 AM Sheng Wu < >>>>>>>>>> wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As Justin mentioned above, the translation is under >>> going. >>>>> We >>>>>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>>>>>>>>> do it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for all because we need to examine the license and make >>> sure >>>>> ICLA >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> each >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects are signed, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not asking to move all repo related to Dubbo, which >>> is >>>>>>>>>> decided by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project owner or Dubbo community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually we hope to move everything into Apache group >>>>> except >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo [1] which serves redirection dubbo.io to >>>>> dubbo.apache.org. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you mentioned, which make me concern more. Especially >>> you >>>>> say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> `eventually` and `hope`. Are these optional? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. The redirection has been completed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can test with: curl -i http://dubbo.io >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only effective file is index.html, possibly CNAME. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other files are archive for the old website before joining >>>>> ASF. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To make it better understandable, I think it is better to >>>>> move them >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> other place (e.g. a new branch) for archive purpose. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I update the description and readme, removing the word >>>>> "eventually". >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please read your own Incubator Proposal[1], section >>> Initial >>>>>>>>>> Source, >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Home >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Page: https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo.github.io"; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the transfer has not been finished, you should wait >>> for >>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO, the transfer has been finished. Requests to dubbo.io >>>>> has been >>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirected to dubbo.apache.org. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why not just set the `redirect` on the DNS level, and >>> host >>>>> all in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dubbo.apache.org. If the two are the same. If >>> not, >>>>> which >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> harder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to understand for me. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because the ownership of dubbo.io did not belong to >>> either >>>>> Apache >>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alibaba when Dubbo joined ASF. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Dubbo community do not have access to change the DNS >>>>> record. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The easiest way is to redirect dubbo.io to >>> dubbo.apache.org. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a block for me. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have changed the title and the profile for dubbo >>> group >>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>> this: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You changed some. But if you look clearly about the >>>>> logo(GitHub >>>>>>>>>> org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avatar), also the name, you will see they[2][3] are the >>> same, >>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>> both >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them belong to ASF. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which makes me think the branding has not been cleared. >>>>>>>>>> Especially, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dubbo team has the full access to that GitHub org, so >>> this >>>>> should >>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>> able >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be fixed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no objection to rename the organization if this is >>> an >>>>> issue. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see some TLP keep an empty group. I think it is useful >>> just >>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> defensive purpose, in case someone abuse it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another way is to create another group with something >>> other >>>>> than >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dubbo, can transfer all the projects under it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dubbo is now incubated in ASF: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this group is for hosting dubbo eco-system temporarily >>>>> before the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transition finishes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The temporarily needs to be defined, as you are going to >>> be a >>>>>>>>>> TLP, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PPMC(potentail PMC) have to make the decision, what do >>> you >>>>> want >>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own repo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Notice, I am not saying all repo in GitHub, but the >>> specific >>>>> ones >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial org, https://github.com/dubbo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DubboProposal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] https://github.com/dubbo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ian Luo <ian....@gmail.com> 于2019年4月24日周三 上午10:29写道： >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glad to see the actions are ongoing, and many projects >>> are >>>>>>>>>> done. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dubbo community consider to make sure the Dubbo >>> GitHub[1] >>>>> org >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processed well? Such as, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Stop using the Dubbo logo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Statement clear, this org will be renamed or some >>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> way(community >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefers) to avoid the branding concern. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the clear status of Dubbo ecosystem is very >>>>> important. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As Justin mentioned above, the translation is under >>> going. >>>>> We >>>>>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>>>>>>>>> do it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for all because we need to examine the license and make >>> sure >>>>>>>>>> ICLA >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> each >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects are signed, but, eventually we hope to move >>>>> everything >>>>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group except for the repo [1] which serves redirection >>>>> dubbo.io >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dubbo.apache.org. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have changed the title and the profile for dubbo >>> group >>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>> this: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Title: Apache Dubbo Ecosystem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profile: Dubbo is now incubated in ASF: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo, this group >>> is >>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> hosting >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dubbo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eco-system temporaryly before the transition finishes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope this can answer your concerns. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Ian. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://github.com/dubbo/dubbo.github.io >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 8:13 AM Sheng Wu < >>>>>>>>>> wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Part of the repo was used to host dubbo.io which now >>>>>>>>>> redirects >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/. Re the other projects >>> it >>>>> may >>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little clean up still needs to be done but action is >>> being >>>>>>>>>> taken. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existence of this extra repo has been discussed a >>> number of >>>>>>>>>> times >>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project and projects are being moved off it. e.g. >>> [1][2] >>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3][4]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This document probably best describes what is >>> happening >>>>> [5]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glad to see the actions are ongoing, and many projects >>> are >>>>>>>>>> done. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dubbo community consider to make sure the Dubbo >>> GitHub[1] >>>>> org >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processed well? Such as, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Stop using the Dubbo logo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Statement clear, this org will be renamed or some >>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> way(community >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefers) to avoid the branding concern. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the clear status of Dubbo ecosystem is very >>>>> important. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dubbo has a very wide community and connected many >>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects/developers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please consider to make sure the branding is clear >>> before >>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This issue is is being addressed (vote has been >>> canceled, >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependancy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed, documentation updated and there’s a discussion >>>>>>>>>> started on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> legal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss on if it might in future be allowed). I also >>> note >>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PPMC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who first noticed this issue not the IPMC. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a blocker, this comes from the same reason >>> I >>>>> asked >>>>>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> branding. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dubbo is too widely used as they said in many media(s), >>>>> many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watcher(s)/star(s) in GitHub. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am hoping it will be a good example of ASF project, >>> and >>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> PMC >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find the license issue in first place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/dubbo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> 于2019年4月24日周三 >>>>>>>>>> 上午7:19写道： >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. If graduation happens, Dubbo should be Apache >>>>> branding, >>>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>>>> why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dubbo GitHub org[1] is still used. Especially the >>> exact >>>>>>>>>> name >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Part of the repo was used to host dubbo.io which now >>>>>>>>>> redirects >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/. Re the other >>> projects it >>>>>>>>>> may be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little clean up still needs to be done but action is >>> being >>>>>>>>>>>>> taken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existence of this extra repo has been discussed a >>> number >>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> times >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project and projects are being moved off it. e.g. >>> [1][2] >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3][4]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This document probably best describes what is >>> happening >>>>> [5]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Most star project[2] in dubbo org is using Apache >>> mail >>>>>>>>>>>>>> list[3]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> groupId[4] says it belongs Alibaba >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would guess this is just an oversight, but if >>> someone >>>>>>>>>> from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PPMC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comment on this that would be good. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Dubbo-go[5] project exists, and also use the Dubbo >>>>>>>>>> name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See [5]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, in the last Dubbo vote `[VOTE]: Release Apache >>>>> Dubbo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Admin(Incubating) 0.2.0 [RC3]`. License issue hasn't >>> been >>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inside >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the PPMC(dev vote), I know LGPL is uncertain >>>>> thing(maybe), >>>>>>>>>>>>> but at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moment, it should not be included. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This issue is is being addressed (vote has been >>> canceled, >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependancy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed, documentation updated and there’s a >>> discussion >>>>>>>>>> started >>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss on if it might in future be allowed). I also >>> note >>>>>>>>>> it was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PPMC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who first noticed this issue not the IPMC. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/aae8787244959aeaab0e3e83dd79036482df9e8006f0fb83e5173d87@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f272b30bd9bb09dc605088504f8ed643bd9a3b2434c9e7ef59b6b7fe@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1987617abc1d4989476beda9dfc9a79eb0e4750050317803b113288c@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ec7995d2c42bafcb8f2778b1d0c6ee94bcbbc2dae11d23c41cad82d6@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>>>>>>>>>>> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>>>>>>>>>> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards！ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Huxing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>>> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Best Regards！ >>>>>> Huxing >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Best Regards！ >>>>> Huxing >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best Regards！ >>> Huxing >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> > > > > -- > Best Regards！ > Huxing > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >
