+1 for #4 I think IPMC members not subscribed to the private list is only an issue for mentors.
So at the risk of adding "yet another rule", I'd vote for #4 and look into *requiring* mentors to subscribe to the incubator private list and their mentee podlings' private lists. Craig > On Mar 7, 2019, at 3:33 PM, Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > It’s been suggested that the IPMC is too large, what do other IPMC members > think might be a way to address this? > > Please discuss and indicate +1 what you would think would help, you can vote > for more than one. > > Some suggestions: > 1. Ask all inactive IPMC if they want to continue being on the IPMC and see > who steps down. Being inactive they are probably not following this list so > we need to identify and send each one email them personally. > 2. There were some questions around merit raised, remove all IPMC members who > were not on the initial proposal and who were voted in. Those left on the > IPMC vote back in those who are currently active. > 3. Get rid of all IPMC members, and vote (with ASF members vote being binding > - not sure how else it could be done?) currently active ones back in. > 4. Do nothing as this is not actually a problem but instead address other > underlying issues. e.g. lack of mentor engagement. > > Also re point 2 do you think we should drop that ASF members can > automatically get IPMC membership and change it to requiring a vote by the > IPMC? It’s has always seem odd to me that this is the case. We’ve recently > voted more people in that we’ve had requests from ASF members. > > Any other sugestions? > > Options 2 and 3 may cause some issues around mentors, but if they were not > active then I guess it’s no big loss. > > And any suggestions on level of activity? Such as: > - Emailed the list in the last year. > - Reviewed at least one release in that time. > > It’s already been determined that some (about 15%) of the less than active > PMC members (out of the 100 odd that are not signed up to the IPMC private > list) do help out infrequently but that help is very useful. That may also > apply to other inactive IPMC members, so I would suggest the bar for what > consider active be kept low. > > Thanks, > Justin > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > Craig L Russell Secretary, Apache Software Foundation c...@apache.org <mailto:c...@apache.org> http://db.apache.org/jdo <http://db.apache.org/jdo>