+1 for #4

I think IPMC members not subscribed to the private list is only an issue for 
mentors. 

So at the risk of adding "yet another rule", I'd vote for #4 and look into 
*requiring* mentors to subscribe to the incubator private list and their mentee 
podlings' private lists.

Craig

> On Mar 7, 2019, at 3:33 PM, Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It’s been suggested that the IPMC is too large, what do other IPMC members 
> think might be a way to address this?
> 
> Please discuss and indicate +1 what you would think would help, you can vote 
> for more than one.
> 
> Some suggestions:
> 1. Ask all inactive IPMC if they want to continue being on the IPMC and see 
> who steps down. Being inactive they are probably not following this list so 
> we need to identify and send each one email them personally.
> 2. There were some questions around merit raised, remove all IPMC members who 
> were not on the initial proposal and who were voted in. Those left on the 
> IPMC vote back in those who are currently active.
> 3. Get rid of all IPMC members, and vote (with ASF members vote being binding 
> - not sure how else it could be done?) currently active ones back in.
> 4. Do nothing as this is not actually a problem but instead address other 
> underlying issues. e.g. lack of mentor engagement.
> 
> Also re point 2 do you think we should drop that ASF members can 
> automatically get IPMC membership and change it to requiring a vote by the 
> IPMC? It’s has always seem odd to me that this is the case. We’ve recently 
> voted more people in that we’ve had requests from ASF members.
> 
> Any other sugestions?
> 
> Options 2 and 3 may cause some issues around mentors, but if they were not 
> active then I guess it’s no big loss.
> 
> And any suggestions on level of activity? Such as:
> - Emailed the list in the last year.
> - Reviewed at least one release in that time.
> 
> It’s already been determined that some (about 15%) of the less than active 
> PMC members (out of the 100 odd that are not signed up to the IPMC private 
> list) do help out infrequently but that help is very useful. That may also 
> apply to other inactive IPMC members, so I would suggest the bar for what 
> consider active be kept low.
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
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