Oh and one more thing that I at least want to mention is the name. I know that podlings can do a name search after the incubation has started.
We thought about using "Training" as the proper name though. It's very descriptive and easy to understand/recognize in multiple languages. https://training.apache.org etc. Are there any issues with that? On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 10:20 AM Lars Francke <lars.fran...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dmitry, Kenneth, > > sorry for the slow replies. I was offline on vacation for a few days. I'll > add both of you to the Wiki (if you haven't already done so). > > I love that we have gathered quite a few interested people to participate > already but I'd love to hear more (or any really) opinions on the proposal > itself as well as the route it should go. > > I'm now leaning in favor of straight-to-TLP. I know we don't have any > fixed duration for DISCUSS threads and discussion has died down but I don't > really want to close it yet so I'll wait at least until the end of the week > before starting any potential next steps. > > > I'm not a professional teacher or trainer, but I have been a part of > preparing and delivering a number of trainings and talks (also the usual > teaching, tutoring, talking in grad school FWIW) and I love it. > > I assume (haven't checked) that this is the background of most of us. It > certainly is mine as well. So that should not be a problem at all! > > Cheers, > Lars > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 9:22 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hi Lars, >> >> I would like to be a part of this too, according to your & the others' >> best >> judgment. I'm PMC at Beam & incubator. > > One of my favorite things about Beam that keeps >> me working on it is that it is a natural integration point of lots of >> different Apache projects both as data processing engines (Spark, Flink, >> Apex, Samza, Tez, Storm, incubating Nemo, ex-incubating Gearpump, ...) >> used >> by Beam users and also data stores (Cassandra, HBase, Hadoop, Tika, Hive, >> ...) they want to read/write from. So our trainings are already basically >> cross-project Apache-focused material and it would be great >> cross-pollination. We often have to help users configure their Spark & >> Flink clusters, etc. >> >> Kenn >> >> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 2:04 AM Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi Lars, >> > >> > I'd like to be a part of this. I'm PMC at Apache Ignite. Sometimes I >> need >> > to give individual feedback to developers related to both Apache >> policies >> > and spirit of developing software in a community way. Why not invest >> effort >> > into training and education materials instead? >> > >> > I gave several talks in Russia related to The Apache Software Foundation >> > and >> > blog about The Apache Way. I also assist newcomers joining Apache >> Ignite. >> > So count on my support, and I definitely would like to became committer >> at >> > Training. >> > >> > Sincerely, >> > Dmitriy Pavlov >> > >> > ср, 30 янв. 2019 г. в 01:25, Lars Francke <lars.fran...@gmail.com>: >> > >> > > Craig, >> > > >> > > that's great news. Thank you for volunteering. I've added you to the >> > Wiki. >> > > >> > > Cheers, >> > > Lars >> > > >> > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:01 PM Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hi Lars, >> > > > >> > > > I'll volunteer to mentor the project if it ends up incubating. And >> I'd >> > > > like to join the discussion as a member of the (P)PMC. The idea of >> an >> > > open >> > > > source project to help rationalize training materials is very >> > appealing. >> > > > >> > > > I'm also very interested in the ecosystem of not-for-profit >> education >> > and >> > > > I think this project would be a great fit. >> > > > >> > > > Craig >> > > > >> > > > > On Jan 28, 2019, at 5:49 AM, Lars Francke <lars.fran...@gmail.com >> > >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > I've been going back and forth on the topic of TLP vs. Incubator >> > > podling. >> > > > > >> > > > > I don't really have a strong opinion but I'm leaning slightly in >> > favor >> > > of >> > > > > "straight to TLP" and the past discussion (linked in previous >> mail) >> > did >> > > > > also have more voices in favor of TLP. But of course there are >> > > arguments >> > > > to >> > > > > be made for both sides. >> > > > > >> > > > > I've been wondering if anyone here has opinions on this part of >> the >> > > > > proposal? >> > > > > >> > > > > In a related thread I asked about how to proceed in terms of >> choosing >> > > > > members for a PMC and one suggestion was to make it depend on the >> > > route: >> > > > > >> > > > > * Incubator: On graduation ask and assess current PMC members and >> see >> > > if >> > > > > everyone has proven their merit and is willing to continue >> > > > > * TLP: Start with a PMC consisting of only ASF members (plus >> > additional >> > > > > committers) and then accept additional members for the PMC on a >> > > "normal" >> > > > > basis >> > > > > >> > > > > Cheers, >> > > > > Lars >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 1:49 PM Lars Francke < >> lars.fran...@gmail.com >> > > >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > >> Hello everyone, >> > > > >> >> > > > >> this is the result of the discussion I started in December >> 2018[1]. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> I would like to start this thread to get feedback on a proposal >> > we've >> > > > been >> > > > >> working on for a project focused on developing training material >> for >> > > > Apache >> > > > >> & 3rd party projects. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> The full proposal can be found here < >> > > > >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TrainingProposal> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Disclaimer: It is a bit different than most other proposals as it >> > > > >> basically starts at zero. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Our main goals for this discussion are: >> > > > >> * Finding mentors and interested contributors >> > > > >> * Discuss whether this should be a Incubator project, straight to >> > TLP >> > > > or a >> > > > >> Central Service >> > > > >> * Sharpen the scope of the project >> > > > >> >> > > > >> While I personally have a relatively long history as a >> contributor, >> > > > >> committer etc. at Apache I've never been a mentor before so we >> would >> > > > love >> > > > >> for some experienced people to help us out. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> We're looking forward to all kinds of feedback. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Cheers, >> > > > >> Lars >> > > > >> >> > > > >> [1] < >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9cb4d7eef73e0d526e0124944c3d37325aa892675351a1eed0a25de3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E >> > > > >>> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > Craig L Russell >> > > > c...@apache.org >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >
