Hi Chris, thanks for chiming in and your offer!
The setup you describe sounds pretty much exactly what we envisioned when we started looking at infrastructure around trainings - back then I think it just sort of died down for a mixture of reasons like too much effort for just the few trainings we had and a lack of "the perfect technology". I remember looking at reveal.js also couldn't tell you why we discarded it back then to be honest, but I suspect it may well have been due to lack of understanding. Regarding the "plugin architecture" we ended up with something that sounds very similar, we have a few plugins that generate images out of things like websequencediagram or draw.io code and then a macro that updates images in the Powerpoint slides to the generated version, so to me these two things sound very aligned. So in short, we'd of course immensely appreciate a donation of your work! Best regards, Sönke On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 10:35 AM Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote: > > Hi all, > > finally having some time to read through the proposal, I too would be > interested in participating. > > I do have quite a bit of experience in creating trainings as this is part of > my job at codecentric. > For the ASF I have for example prepared a Maven training, which I held in > Vancouver a few years ago. > > Justin pointed me to having a look as maybe my presentation-setup could be > helpful as well. > Most presentations are in a binary format (or in an XML format that's so > complex, I'd call it XML-binary) > So a typical git workflow is sort of pointless. > > For the last few years I have been doing all my talks, trainings etc. in a > setup I have been perfecting. > I am writing content as Asciidoc files and have them generated to slides via > RevealJS via Maven. > > My setup currently supports a huge variety of plugins that allow all sorts of > charts, diagrams, or other content. > > The main benefit for me is that this way I can always tag, branch and compare > versions of my talks. > > Guess it could be helpful in community built content and reviews. > > So if you are interested in this, I would be happy to donate that ... as well > as my existing training material. > > Chris > > > Am 04.02.19, 10:21 schrieb "Lars Francke" <lars.fran...@gmail.com>: > > Dmitry, Kenneth, > > sorry for the slow replies. I was offline on vacation for a few days. I'll > add both of you to the Wiki (if you haven't already done so). > > I love that we have gathered quite a few interested people to participate > already but I'd love to hear more (or any really) opinions on the proposal > itself as well as the route it should go. > > I'm now leaning in favor of straight-to-TLP. I know we don't have any > fixed > duration for DISCUSS threads and discussion has died down but I don't > really want to close it yet so I'll wait at least until the end of the > week > before starting any potential next steps. > > > I'm not a professional teacher or trainer, but I have been a part of > preparing and delivering a number of trainings and talks (also the usual > teaching, tutoring, talking in grad school FWIW) and I love it. > > I assume (haven't checked) that this is the background of most of us. It > certainly is mine as well. So that should not be a problem at all! > > Cheers, > Lars > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 9:22 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Hi Lars, > > > > I would like to be a part of this too, according to your & the others' > best > > judgment. I'm PMC at Beam & incubator. > > One of my favorite things about Beam that keeps > > me working on it is that it is a natural integration point of lots of > > different Apache projects both as data processing engines (Spark, Flink, > > Apex, Samza, Tez, Storm, incubating Nemo, ex-incubating Gearpump, ...) > used > > by Beam users and also data stores (Cassandra, HBase, Hadoop, Tika, > Hive, > > ...) they want to read/write from. So our trainings are already > basically > > cross-project Apache-focused material and it would be great > > cross-pollination. We often have to help users configure their Spark & > > Flink clusters, etc. > > > > Kenn > > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 2:04 AM Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > Hi Lars, > > > > > > I'd like to be a part of this. I'm PMC at Apache Ignite. Sometimes I > need > > > to give individual feedback to developers related to both Apache > policies > > > and spirit of developing software in a community way. Why not invest > > effort > > > into training and education materials instead? > > > > > > I gave several talks in Russia related to The Apache Software > Foundation > > > and > > > blog about The Apache Way. I also assist newcomers joining Apache > Ignite. > > > So count on my support, and I definitely would like to became > committer > > at > > > Training. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > ср, 30 янв. 2019 г. в 01:25, Lars Francke <lars.fran...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > Craig, > > > > > > > > that's great news. Thank you for volunteering. I've added you to the > > > Wiki. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Lars > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:01 PM Craig Russell > <apache....@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Lars, > > > > > > > > > > I'll volunteer to mentor the project if it ends up incubating. And > > I'd > > > > > like to join the discussion as a member of the (P)PMC. The idea > of an > > > > open > > > > > source project to help rationalize training materials is very > > > appealing. > > > > > > > > > > I'm also very interested in the ecosystem of not-for-profit > education > > > and > > > > > I think this project would be a great fit. > > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 28, 2019, at 5:49 AM, Lars Francke > <lars.fran...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been going back and forth on the topic of TLP vs. Incubator > > > > podling. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't really have a strong opinion but I'm leaning slightly in > > > favor > > > > of > > > > > > "straight to TLP" and the past discussion (linked in previous > mail) > > > did > > > > > > also have more voices in favor of TLP. But of course there are > > > > arguments > > > > > to > > > > > > be made for both sides. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been wondering if anyone here has opinions on this part of > the > > > > > > proposal? > > > > > > > > > > > > In a related thread I asked about how to proceed in terms of > > choosing > > > > > > members for a PMC and one suggestion was to make it depend on > the > > > > route: > > > > > > > > > > > > * Incubator: On graduation ask and assess current PMC members > and > > see > > > > if > > > > > > everyone has proven their merit and is willing to continue > > > > > > * TLP: Start with a PMC consisting of only ASF members (plus > > > additional > > > > > > committers) and then accept additional members for the PMC on a > > > > "normal" > > > > > > basis > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Lars > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 1:49 PM Lars Francke < > > lars.fran...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hello everyone, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> this is the result of the discussion I started in December > > 2018[1]. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I would like to start this thread to get feedback on a proposal > > > we've > > > > > been > > > > > >> working on for a project focused on developing training > material > > for > > > > > Apache > > > > > >> & 3rd party projects. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> The full proposal can be found here < > > > > > >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TrainingProposal> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Disclaimer: It is a bit different than most other proposals as > it > > > > > >> basically starts at zero. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Our main goals for this discussion are: > > > > > >> * Finding mentors and interested contributors > > > > > >> * Discuss whether this should be a Incubator project, straight > to > > > TLP > > > > > or a > > > > > >> Central Service > > > > > >> * Sharpen the scope of the project > > > > > >> > > > > > >> While I personally have a relatively long history as a > > contributor, > > > > > >> committer etc. at Apache I've never been a mentor before so we > > would > > > > > love > > > > > >> for some experienced people to help us out. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> We're looking forward to all kinds of feedback. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Cheers, > > > > > >> Lars > > > > > >> > > > > > >> [1] < > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9cb4d7eef73e0d526e0124944c3d37325aa892675351a1eed0a25de3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Craig L Russell > > > > > c...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Sönke Liebau Partner Tel. +49 179 7940878 OpenCore GmbH & Co. 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