On 22 October 2017 at 17:53, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid> wrote:
> Hmm, well, but that usually only happens if it is clear that the vote should 
> get cancelled.

Isn't that what I wrote?

> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>> Am 22.10.2017 um 15:29 schrieb sebb <seb...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> On 21 October 2017 at 18:27, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Even though there is no
>>>> veto vote on releases, if someone raised a valid issue, the group might
>>>> postpone a release as well, even after +1s.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes indeed. Sometimes a single person discovers a problem during the voting 
>>> process and casts -1.
>>> A -1 always should come with good arguments.
>>> Usually that leads to the others (who already voted) review this argument. 
>>> And if it turns out to really be a problem which the others have simply 
>>> overlooked, then they often amend their vote to a -1 as well.
>>
>> Or the RM can just cancel the vote if it's obvious that the problem is
>> sufficiently serious.
>> I don't think there is any need for additional -1 votes in that case.
>>
>>> LieGrue,
>>> strub
>>>
>>>
>>>> Am 21.10.2017 um 19:15 schrieb Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org>:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>>>>
>>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#ReleaseVotes
>>>>
>>>> It is technically both with nuances. Time and 3 binding +1s plus a majority
>>>> +1s. The 72 hours is a participation enabler. The 3 bindings is the minimum
>>>> required, but a majority -1s would be a big deal. Even though there is no
>>>> veto vote on releases, if someone raised a valid issue, the group might
>>>> postpone a release as well, even after +1s.
>>>>
>>>> Wade
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 21, 2017 08:55, "Geertjan Wielenga" 
>>>> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks -- so, right now, Bertrand, John, and Mark have done binding
>>>>> votes -- i.e., two of our mentors and the VP Incubator.
>>>>>
>>>>> How many binding votes are needed or is it simply a question of time, 
>>>>> i.e.,
>>>>> at the time that the vote expires, if there's no -1, and only +1 binding
>>>>> votes, then the release of this specific repo that is one of the repose of
>>>>> Apache NetBeans is approved?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gj
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 IPMC binding
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LICENSE, NOTICE, rat, dependencies, signing, etc all looks good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However when building it from the distribution zip on my macbook with
>>>>>> java8 144 I sometimes get test errors.
>>>>>> All of them in knockout.js, but each time something different:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Configuring TestNG with: TestNG652Configurator
>>>>>> Oct 21, 2017 1:55:53 PM org.glassfish.grizzly.http.
>>>>> server.NetworkListener
>>>>>> start
>>>>>> INFORMATION: Started listener bound to [0.0.0.0:18572]
>>>>>> Oct 21, 2017 1:55:53 PM org.glassfish.grizzly.http.server.HttpServer
>>>>> start
>>>>>> INFORMATION: [HttpServer] Started.
>>>>>> Tests run: 78, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0, Time elapsed: 6.451
>>>>> sec
>>>>>> <<< FAILURE!
>>>>>> displayContentOfComputedArrayOnComputedASubpair(org.
>>>>> netbeans.html.ko4j.KOFx)
>>>>>> Time elapsed: 0.03 sec  <<< FAILURE!
>>>>>> java.lang.AssertionError: We got callback from 2nd child null expecting:
>>>>>> null actual: Last
>>>>>>       at net.java.html.json.tests.Utils.assertEquals(Utils.java:217)
>>>>>>       at net.java.html.json.tests.KnockoutTest.
>>>>>> displayContentOfComputedArrayOnComputedASubpair(KnockoutTest.java:622)
>>>>>>       at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>>>>>>       at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(
>>>>>> NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
>>>>>>       at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(
>>>>>> DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
>>>>>>       at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
>>>>>>       at org.netbeans.html.ko4j.KOFx.run(KOFx.java:73)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tests run: 78, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0, Time elapsed: 7.772
>>>>> sec
>>>>>> <<< FAILURE!
>>>>>> rawObject(org.netbeans.html.ko4j.KOFx)  Time elapsed: 0.067 sec  <<<
>>>>>> FAILURE!
>>>>>> netscape.javascript.JSException: netscape.javascript.JSException:
>>>>>> java.lang.NullPointerException
>>>>>>       at org.netbeans.html.ko4j.$JsCallbacks$.raw$org_netbeans_
>>>>>> html_ko4j_Knockout$setValue$ILjava_lang_Object_2($JsCallbacks$.java:156)
>>>>>>       at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>>>>>>       at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(
>>>>>> NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
>>>>>>       at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(
>>>>>> DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
>>>>>>       at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
>>>>>>       at sun.reflect.misc.Trampoline.invoke(MethodUtil.java:71)
>>>>>>       at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor1.invoke(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>       at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(
>>>>>> DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
>>>>>>       at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
>>>>>>       at sun.reflect.misc.MethodUtil.invoke(MethodUtil.java:275)
>>>>>>       at com.sun.webkit.Utilities.lambda$fwkInvokeWithContext$
>>>>>> 60(Utilities.java:94)
>>>>>>       at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>>>>>>       at com.sun.webkit.Utilities.fwkInvokeWithContext(
>>>>>> Utilities.java:94)
>>>>>>       at com.sun.webkit.dom.JSObject.callImpl(Native Method)
>>>>>>       at com.sun.webkit.dom.JSObject.call(JSObject.java:115)
>>>>>>       at org.netbeans.html.boot.fx.AbstractFXPresenter$JSFn.
>>>>> invokeImpl(
>>>>>> AbstractFXPresenter.java:418)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Failed tests:
>>>>>> KOFx.run:73 ยป JS netscape.javascript.JSException:
>>>>>> java.lang.NullPointerExcepti...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Running the build for the forth time made it succeed.
>>>>>> I'd say it's not a blocker for the release, but we might improve the test
>>>>>> setup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> txs for rolling the release!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>>> strub
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 21.10.2017 um 14:04 schrieb John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's my +1 to release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 8:43 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
>>>>>>> bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Jaroslav Tulach
>>>>>>>> <jaroslav.tul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> ...I'd like to ask you to hold the Incubator
>>>>>>>>> PMC vote to release:..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's my +1 repeated from the podling list for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SHA1(incubating-netbeans-html4j-1.5.zip)=
>>>>>>>> fd77975f1adbcbc4b926e1cfab6865f47db6df3c
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jaroslav's GPG key is included in
>>>>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/group/netbeans.asc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Bertrand
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