In that case, I oppose this change. I believe the status quo is just as clear as this new proposal.
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Jim, > > Good questions. > > > On May 9, 2017, at 11:04 AM, Jim Apple <jbap...@cloudera.com> wrote: > > > > If PPMC members A, B, and C, who are not IPMC members, vote +1 on a > > release, and then the second phase starts, acquires three +1 IPMC votes, > > but A, B, and C change their votes to -1, does the release pass? > > Binding votes: 3 +1 > non-binding votes: 3 -1 > > The binding votes determine the outcome. The vote passes. > > > > Hoe long must the first phase last? How long may it last? > > Usual rules. No change. > > > > If in the first phase, the vote is +3 to -4, may the release manager > begin > > the second phase? > > No. The usual rules apply to the first phase. More positive than negative > votes. At least three PPMC members must cast votes in order to go to the > second phase. > > Craig > > > > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> I've seen a few (recent) incubator votes that imply that there are two > >> separate, distinct votes: one in the podling and one in the incubator > >> general. And lots of questions about binding votes and carried-over > votes > >> and whose votes are counted. > >> > >> I'd like to suggest: > >> > >> There is one vote for a podling release candidate. The first phase of > the > >> vote takes place on the podling dev list. Anyone can vote. An > affirmative > >> vote by three PPMC members (including mentors) is sufficient to start > the > >> second phase, which takes place on the incubator general list. An > >> individual's vote can be changed any time during either phase until the > >> final vote is tallied. > >> > >> All votes are counted. Only IPMC member votes are binding. The final > tally > >> counts affirmative, neutral, and negative votes from both phases > combined > >> and affirmative, neutral and negative binding votes from both phases > >> combined. > >> > >> This terminology answers questions about: > >> > >> Whether PPMC votes are binding. They are not. > >> Whether IPMC member votes on the first phase of voting carry over to the > >> second phase. They do. > >> Whether public votes in either phase count. They do. > >> Whether public votes in either phase are binding. They are not. > >> > >> If we agree on the terminology, I'll see what documents need to be > updated. > >> > >> Craig L Russell > >> c...@apache.org > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> > > Craig L Russell > c...@apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
