Having been through this with Apache Geode, I like the idea of paying homage to emeritus committers in the proposal and history of the technology. If you start with a rule of providing committer privileges to those who have directly committed to the project in the last two or three years, and a liberal policy of granting new committer privileges as needed, I think you should be ok. Does an emeritus committer need commit privileges today? Only if they start committing again.
And for those that want prestige - the prestige rests in being an active evangelist of the project. One does not ever need to be a committer to achieve prestige. On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny <elecha...@gmail.com> wrote: > Le 27/09/16 à 13:25, Greg Stein a écrit : > > The NetBeans proposal (among many others in the past) has demonstrated a > > significant "problem" with trying to establish an appropriate list of > > initial committers. There are many people that want to be on, for various > > reasons. Because they are committers, recent or historic. Or they want > the > > "prestige" to be there. Some people believe they "deserve" to be on the > > list. etc etc > > > > Establishing the list is particularly difficult for large and old > > communities. > > > > But. What if we just said "no such list" ? > > > > This will shift the initial voting of committers upon the > Champion/Mentors > > who will construct the entirety of the PPMC. But hey: aren't they > supposed > > to be involved? Aren't they supposed to demonstrate how to earn merit, > and > > the committership that results? > > > > This would also solve the problem of initial committers that have not > > established any merit whatsoever. We've had many situations where people > > simply add themselves to the list. Why? Cuz they chose to do so. It is > sort > > of silently allowed for IPMC members to add themselves. "I wanna join!" > > BAM. It happens. > > > > So yeah. Radical thought: NO initial list. The PPMC is just the Champion > + > > Mentors. They will build the committers and PPMC according to merit. > (note: > > this could be *very* fast for a particular few highly-engaged with > bringing > > the project to the ASF) > > > > ??? > > > > Cheers, > > -g > > > Well, that's tempting... > > > OTOH there is no problem with having an initial list, even with people > who want to see their name on the web site for teh sake of their own ego > : it's easy to demote committer in the long run (moving them to an > emeritus status). > > > We have so many dormant committers in so many projects anyway ! > > > My take is the initial list is just a curtesy made to the involved > people, and a few more. Nothing less, nothing more. The PPMC list, OTOH, > is critical. > > > My 2 cts. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Greg Chase Global Head, Big Data Communities http://www.pivotal.io/big-data Pivotal Software http://www.pivotal.io/ 650-215-0477 @GregChase Blog: http://geekmarketing.biz/
