Le 27/09/16 à 13:25, Greg Stein a écrit : > The NetBeans proposal (among many others in the past) has demonstrated a > significant "problem" with trying to establish an appropriate list of > initial committers. There are many people that want to be on, for various > reasons. Because they are committers, recent or historic. Or they want the > "prestige" to be there. Some people believe they "deserve" to be on the > list. etc etc > > Establishing the list is particularly difficult for large and old > communities. > > But. What if we just said "no such list" ? > > This will shift the initial voting of committers upon the Champion/Mentors > who will construct the entirety of the PPMC. But hey: aren't they supposed > to be involved? Aren't they supposed to demonstrate how to earn merit, and > the committership that results? > > This would also solve the problem of initial committers that have not > established any merit whatsoever. We've had many situations where people > simply add themselves to the list. Why? Cuz they chose to do so. It is sort > of silently allowed for IPMC members to add themselves. "I wanna join!" > BAM. It happens. > > So yeah. Radical thought: NO initial list. The PPMC is just the Champion + > Mentors. They will build the committers and PPMC according to merit. (note: > this could be *very* fast for a particular few highly-engaged with bringing > the project to the ASF) > > ??? > > Cheers, > -g > Well, that's tempting...
OTOH there is no problem with having an initial list, even with people who want to see their name on the web site for teh sake of their own ego : it's easy to demote committer in the long run (moving them to an emeritus status). We have so many dormant committers in so many projects anyway ! My take is the initial list is just a curtesy made to the involved people, and a few more. Nothing less, nothing more. The PPMC list, OTOH, is critical. My 2 cts. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
