Brilliant! On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu> wrote:
> On 2016-09-14 21:49, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > >> I can't wait for that to happen! In the meantime, can we call NetBeans by >> its real name: NetBeans, with an uppercase N and an uppercase B? Shall we >> all start maintaining that, i.e., using the correct name, which is >> NetBeans >> or, better yet, Apache NetBeans? >> > > Sorry, guilty as charged. And as a proposed mentor: double penalty :-) > I'll try to do better in the future! > > >> Yes, Oracle is handing over everything in terms of trademarks to Apache, >> let's put aside that discussion since it's true, if you can point in the >> proposal where this is not clear or can be clearer, tell me and we will >> change/add/whatever. FYI -- no one creating independent products based on >> Apache NetBeans cares what its name is. >> >> Only two things are in discussion right now: (1) licensing [which has been >> discussed quite a bit with Apache folks like Bertrand and Ate prior to the >> proposal being published and we are comfortable we'll be able to solve >> everything] and (2) infrastructure migration [which has been outlined >> already, though we are working on a lot more details at the moment so that >> everything will be crystal clear]. >> > > Cool! > > I think the proposal looks great and so far I see no issues to be > considered > blocking for entering the Incubator. > > Regards, Ate > > > >> Thanks, >> >> Geertjan >> >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> >> wrote: >> >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Wade Chandler >>> <cons...@wadechandler.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Do you mean from the stand point of it being a Java based application, >>>> >>> or that some how >>> >>>> NetBeans and the Java TCK are related? I don’t think either is an impact >>>> >>> on NetBeans IMHO; >>> >>>> not any more than it is for the Eclipse IDE or IntelliJ. Do you mean >>>> >>> because it is being contributed >>> >>>> by Oracle perhaps? If so, does the donor have as much impact on >>>> >>> contributions as that once >>> >>>> adopted by Apache? I may be misunderstanding what you are asking. I am >>>> >>> not an employee >>> >>>> of Oracle; just an NB contributor. >>>> >>> >>> I think the question is more along the lines of what else would be >>> required to produce a "canonical" >>> release of Apache Netbeans. If everything that is required is being >>> donated -- I think we're good. >>> IOW, the project must be self-contained and not depend on anything >>> still left behind the firewall >>> to do on-going development and most important releases. E.g. if I send >>> you a patch -- you can't >>> reject it on the grounds that some test behind Oracle's frewall I've >>> never seen failed. Stuff like >>> that. >>> >>> On a related note, I haven't seen it explicitly mentioned in the >>> proposal, but I hope you guys do >>> realize that once this project is accepted the Netbeans brand belongs >>> to Apache. IOW, if Oracle >>> or anybody else ever want to have an independent product based on >>> Apache Netbeans they will >>> have to call it something else. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Roman. >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >>> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
