I can't wait for that to happen! In the meantime, can we call NetBeans by its real name: NetBeans, with an uppercase N and an uppercase B? Shall we all start maintaining that, i.e., using the correct name, which is NetBeans or, better yet, Apache NetBeans?
Yes, Oracle is handing over everything in terms of trademarks to Apache, let's put aside that discussion since it's true, if you can point in the proposal where this is not clear or can be clearer, tell me and we will change/add/whatever. FYI -- no one creating independent products based on Apache NetBeans cares what its name is. Only two things are in discussion right now: (1) licensing [which has been discussed quite a bit with Apache folks like Bertrand and Ate prior to the proposal being published and we are comfortable we'll be able to solve everything] and (2) infrastructure migration [which has been outlined already, though we are working on a lot more details at the moment so that everything will be crystal clear]. Thanks, Geertjan On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Wade Chandler > <cons...@wadechandler.com> wrote: > > Do you mean from the stand point of it being a Java based application, > or that some how > > NetBeans and the Java TCK are related? I don’t think either is an impact > on NetBeans IMHO; > > not any more than it is for the Eclipse IDE or IntelliJ. Do you mean > because it is being contributed > > by Oracle perhaps? If so, does the donor have as much impact on > contributions as that once > > adopted by Apache? I may be misunderstanding what you are asking. I am > not an employee > > of Oracle; just an NB contributor. > > I think the question is more along the lines of what else would be > required to produce a "canonical" > release of Apache Netbeans. If everything that is required is being > donated -- I think we're good. > IOW, the project must be self-contained and not depend on anything > still left behind the firewall > to do on-going development and most important releases. E.g. if I send > you a patch -- you can't > reject it on the grounds that some test behind Oracle's frewall I've > never seen failed. Stuff like > that. > > On a related note, I haven't seen it explicitly mentioned in the > proposal, but I hope you guys do > realize that once this project is accepted the Netbeans brand belongs > to Apache. IOW, if Oracle > or anybody else ever want to have an independent product based on > Apache Netbeans they will > have to call it something else. > > Thanks, > Roman. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
