Le 8 août 2016 21:04, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <j...@nanthrax.net> a écrit : > > Hi John, > > I've probably missed your ping. That's right that last month I didn't sign for two reasons: > 1. the report was empty > 2. I don't see lot of activity on the BatchEE project: > 2.1. There are some commits ( https://github.com/apache/incubator-batchee/commits/master) but not super active > 2.2. Same for the mailing lists: > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-batchee-user/ > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-batchee-dev/ > > I'm not sure that BatchEE can be a project by its own as I'm not sure we have a community around (especially an user community).
To be honest got very various feesback from tomcat, standalone and tomee users. Putting batchee behind tomee or geronimo would kill the remaining 66% of users IMO and the community would be quite weird or not heterogeneous at least (so not a real one). That to say i have a very mixes feeling about umbrella projects. > I agree with Romain that BatchEE could be part of a kind of umbrella project. > If we have good sign that we have an user community around, then it makes sense to discuss about graduation. > > Regards > JB > > > On 08/08/2016 05:57 PM, John D. Ament wrote: >> >> Romain, >> >> I've actually been pushing to get BatchEE to graduate for some time. IMHO >> there's no more benefit in the incubator for you guys. >> >> I'm pointing out the issue, as last month a mentor refused sign off due to >> lack of content in your report. The current report doesn't seem to be much >> better. I pinged JB off list, so far no answer there either. >> >> - John >> >> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:49 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com > >> wrote: >> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> Think we can be blamed to not have answered you but we took actions in >>> general. That said Mark was more pointing out that if there are issues with >>> the content it should probably be sent to batchee too explaining why and >>> what is expected/how we can enhance it. Typically this time you pointed out >>> it was "too empty" for you but I'm not sure there is a list I'm not aware >>> of but it would have been completely silently ignored cause batchee@ >>> wouldn't have been notified of that. >>> >>> More generally it is quite hard to fill this report for stable projects >>> (which doesn't mean they are not alive but just they are stable enough to >>> not get as much activity as BigData projects ;)). I'm not sure we should >>> group them either in a new umbrella project or an existing one - typically >>> we could create an inconsistent bucket in term of user communities but >>> consistent in term of maintainers/asf guys - or just keep it like that but >>> this "issue" will come back regularly I think and it would be great to >>> "skip" these round trips if possible and have a clear statement about >>> projects having by design an irregular activity - thinking to EE projects >>> which have a big activity after spec releases then mainly just maintenance >>> until next round. >>> >>> You probably guessed that I would love to avoid to let small projects be >>> swallowed by bigger projects to skip this kind of lifecycle/activity issue >>> and avoid to create inconsistent (user) communities but I have to admit I >>> don't have a good view of the incubator freedom we can have on that area. >>> >>> >>> >>> Romain Manni-Bucau >>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog >>> <https://blog-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com> | Old Wordpress Blog >>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github < >>> https://github.com/rmannibucau> | >>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Tomitriber >>> <http://www.tomitribe.com> | JavaEE Factory >>> <https://javaeefactory-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com> >>> >>> 2016-08-08 17:22 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>: >>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 3:47 AM Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> John, others. Would you please also add in the BatchEE amendments I did >>>>> today. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Next time a draft is sent, it will be picked up (its just copy and >>> >>> paste). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> The feedback mechanism is great but we could improve this by also >>> >>> sending >>>>> >>>>> a mail to the respective podling if you have feedback. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I know that I've personally sent feedback/questions to BatchEE before, >>>> without any response from the podling. >>>> >>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/262e43b2bb49d1ef5058a74f43b4f7 >>>> c1e4ec6b9fb4f5896d28e95918@%3Cdev.batchee.apache.org%3E >>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/044be9dc4b10136a7025ca5e031b33 >>>> 12e2dee8b93680483a754b594e@%3Cdev.batchee.apache.org%3E >>>> >>>> - John >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> That way we could fix left-overs and missed paragraphs much easier. >>>>> >>>>> txs and LieGrue, >>>>> strub >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > -- > Jean-Baptiste Onofré > jbono...@apache.org > http://blog.nanthrax.net > Talend - http://www.talend.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >
