Hi John,
I've probably missed your ping. That's right that last month I didn't
sign for two reasons:
1. the report was empty
2. I don't see lot of activity on the BatchEE project:
2.1. There are some commits
(https://github.com/apache/incubator-batchee/commits/master) but not
super active
2.2. Same for the mailing lists:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-batchee-user/
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-batchee-dev/
I'm not sure that BatchEE can be a project by its own as I'm not sure we
have a community around (especially an user community).
I agree with Romain that BatchEE could be part of a kind of umbrella
project.
If we have good sign that we have an user community around, then it
makes sense to discuss about graduation.
Regards
JB
On 08/08/2016 05:57 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
Romain,
I've actually been pushing to get BatchEE to graduate for some time. IMHO
there's no more benefit in the incubator for you guys.
I'm pointing out the issue, as last month a mentor refused sign off due to
lack of content in your report. The current report doesn't seem to be much
better. I pinged JB off list, so far no answer there either.
- John
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:49 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi John,
Think we can be blamed to not have answered you but we took actions in
general. That said Mark was more pointing out that if there are issues with
the content it should probably be sent to batchee too explaining why and
what is expected/how we can enhance it. Typically this time you pointed out
it was "too empty" for you but I'm not sure there is a list I'm not aware
of but it would have been completely silently ignored cause batchee@
wouldn't have been notified of that.
More generally it is quite hard to fill this report for stable projects
(which doesn't mean they are not alive but just they are stable enough to
not get as much activity as BigData projects ;)). I'm not sure we should
group them either in a new umbrella project or an existing one - typically
we could create an inconsistent bucket in term of user communities but
consistent in term of maintainers/asf guys - or just keep it like that but
this "issue" will come back regularly I think and it would be great to
"skip" these round trips if possible and have a clear statement about
projects having by design an irregular activity - thinking to EE projects
which have a big activity after spec releases then mainly just maintenance
until next round.
You probably guessed that I would love to avoid to let small projects be
swallowed by bigger projects to skip this kind of lifecycle/activity issue
and avoid to create inconsistent (user) communities but I have to admit I
don't have a good view of the incubator freedom we can have on that area.
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2016-08-08 17:22 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>:
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 3:47 AM Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid>
wrote:
John, others. Would you please also add in the BatchEE amendments I did
today.
Next time a draft is sent, it will be picked up (its just copy and
paste).
The feedback mechanism is great but we could improve this by also
sending
a mail to the respective podling if you have feedback.
I know that I've personally sent feedback/questions to BatchEE before,
without any response from the podling.
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/262e43b2bb49d1ef5058a74f43b4f7
c1e4ec6b9fb4f5896d28e95918@%3Cdev.batchee.apache.org%3E
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/044be9dc4b10136a7025ca5e031b33
12e2dee8b93680483a754b594e@%3Cdev.batchee.apache.org%3E
- John
That way we could fix left-overs and missed paragraphs much easier.
txs and LieGrue,
strub
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