That line says "should", and therefore the DISCUSS wasn't absolutely required.

Let's move on.

Marvin Humphrey

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 3:12 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
> Cos,
>
> You mean this line?
>
> The resolution
> <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-resolution> should
> be proposed on the general incubator list <general@incubator.apache.org> 
> before
> a VOTE <http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html> is started to allow
> feedback.
>
> John
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 2:37 PM Konstantin Boudnik <c...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> according to [1] the discussion could be done inside of the voting and
>> isn't
>> explicitly required. That was my only motive going to the [VOTE] directly.
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Cos
>>
>> [1]
>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#ipmc-top-level-recommendation
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 06:35AM, John D. Ament wrote:
>> > The only thing that catches me off guard is lack of a discuss thread.
>> But
>> > I can give +1
>> > On Oct 28, 2015 16:26, "Konstantin Boudnik" <c...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Following discussions [1] about its current status, the Groovy
>> community
>> > > has voted [2] to graduate from the Incubator. The vote passed [3] with
>> 12
>> > > +1s
>> > > total, 5 are binding:
>> > >
>> > >     Guillaume Laforge
>> > >     Cédric Champeau
>> > >     Paul King
>> > >     Jochen Theodorou
>> > >     Pascal Schumacher
>> > >     Emmanuel Lécharny (binding)
>> > >     Bertrand Delacretaz (binding)
>> > >     Andrew Bayer (binding)
>> > >     Jim Jagielski (binding)
>> > >     Konstantin Boudnik (binding)
>> > >     Russel Winder
>> > >     Guillaume Alleon
>> > >
>> > > The Groovy community has:
>> > > * completed all required paperwork:
>> > >     https://incubator.apache.org/projects/groovy.html
>> > > * completed multiple releases (2.4.4, 2.4.5, 2.4.6 is in the works)
>> > > * completed the name check procedure:
>> > >     https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-88
>> > > * addressed 50+ JIRAs:
>> > >     http://is.gd/1tACON
>> > > * voted in multiple new committers/PPMC members
>> > >
>> > > Therefore, I'm calling a VOTE to graduate Groovy with the following
>> Board
>> > > resolution. The VOTE will run for at least 72 hours, ending
>> > > Saturday, October 31st 8 PM PST.
>> > >
>> > > [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Groovy from the Incubator.
>> > > [ ] +0 Don't care.
>> > > [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Groovy from the Incubator because ...
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > >     Cos
>> > >
>> > > [1] http://is.gd/DX41lO
>> > > [2] http://is.gd/pPweq3
>> > > [3] http://is.gd/VTLiqO
>> > >
>> > > ---- Apache Groovy graduation resolution draft
>> > >
>> > > Establish the Apache Groovy Top-Level Project
>> > >
>> > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
>> > > of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>> > > establish a Project Management Committee charged with the evolution
>> > > and maintenance of the Groovy programming language,
>> > >
>> > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>> > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Groovy Project", be and hereby is
>> > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>> > >
>> > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Groovy Project be and hereby is responsible
>> > > for the evolution and maintenance of the Groovy programming language;
>> > > and be it further
>> > >
>> > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Groovy" be and
>> > > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>> > > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Groovy
>> > > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>> > > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Groovy
>> > > Project; and be it further
>> > >
>> > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>> > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Groovy Project
>> > > PMC:
>> > >
>> > >     Cédric Champeau <cedric.champ...@gmail.com>
>> > >     Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au>
>> > >     Guillaume Laforge <glafo...@gmail.com>
>> > >     Pascal Schumacher <pascalschumac...@gmx.net>
>> > >     Jochen Theodorou <blackd...@gmx.org>
>> > >     Andrew Bayer <andrew.ba...@gmail.com>
>> > >     Konstantin Boudnik <c...@apache.org>
>> > >
>> > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Guillaume Laforge be
>> > > appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Groovy, to serve in
>> > > accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors
>> > > and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement,
>> > > removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
>> > > it further
>> > >
>> > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Groovy Project be and hereby is tasked with
>> > > the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Groovy
>> > > podling; and be it further
>> > >
>> > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>> > > Groovy podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are
>> > > hereafter discharged.
>> > >
>>

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