Yeah, that's just it... If a project gets to the 'vote for Incubation' phase, there's a real good chance that all the non-viable and non-acceptable proposals have either been modified or simply rejected before it even gets that far.
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It is very common for a project as initially proposed to be rejected during > initial champion counseling or during discussion. > > If problematic aspects are mitigated or mentors sign up for extra care, > this rarely results in a complete stop of the incubation, however. > > As with all Apache processes, things rarely go to a vote until the outcome > is already assured so looking for failed votes isn't very productive. > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 4:22 AM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote: > >> >>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 3:59 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.ba...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>> ...Can we think of some examples in recent years of potential podlings >> getting >>>> to the point of a serious DISCUSS thread but not making it to a vote?.. >>> >>> I don't have such an example, but it might also just be because we say >>> no earlier. >>> >>>> ...Is it culturally acceptable for IPMC members to vote no?... >>> >>> Definitely. >>> >>>> ...and what criteria would make it acceptable to vote no?... >>> >>> Off the top of my head I'd say: >>> 1) Not enough experienced mentors >>> 2) Projected Infrastructure costs too high >>> 3) Project needs more time outside of the ASF to start building a >> community >>> 4) Project doesn't have a concrete enough codebase to get started >>> 5) Incomplete proposal, or something in it that makes us think the >>> project will never graduate >>> >>> We usually detect 3) and 4) in the discussion stages, and 4) is not >>> absolute, there can be interesting exceptions. >> >> 6) License incompatibility... ie, they want to use LGPL instead of ALv2 >> for example. >> 7) Governance incompatibility... want to remain a BDFL, etc. >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
