> On Oct 13, 2015, at 3:59 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...Can we think of some examples in recent years of potential podlings 
>> getting
>> to the point of a serious DISCUSS thread but not making it to a vote?..
> 
> I don't have such an example, but it might also just be because we say
> no earlier.
> 
>> ...Is it culturally acceptable for IPMC members to vote no?...
> 
> Definitely.
> 
>> ...and what criteria would make it acceptable to vote no?...
> 
> Off the top of my head I'd say:
> 1) Not enough experienced mentors
> 2) Projected Infrastructure costs too high
> 3) Project needs more time outside of the ASF to start building a community
> 4) Project doesn't have a concrete enough codebase to get started
> 5) Incomplete proposal, or something in it that makes us think the
> project will never graduate
> 
> We usually detect 3) and 4) in the discussion stages, and 4) is not
> absolute, there can be interesting exceptions.

6) License incompatibility... ie, they want to use LGPL instead of ALv2
   for example.
7) Governance incompatibility... want to remain a BDFL, etc.



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