On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 11:38AM, Greg Trasuk wrote: > Hi Daniel: > > Discussion intertwined below… > > Cheers, > > Greg Trasuk > > > On Oct 9, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Hi Incubator folks, > > > > I would like to propose we adopt a mentor neutrality policy for > > incubating podlings: > > > > - A mentor must not be financially tied to the project or its incubation > > status. > > This requirement would seem to be against the idea that we participate in > Apache as individuals, rather than as employees/representatives of some > company. If there is a case where a member appears to be representing their
I'd even go as far as saying this requirement asserts that mentors aren't capable of separating their employment/advisement affiliation from their individual contribution to the ASF. If it were indeed a case it should be dealt with on a case-per-case basis, instead of putting a round of the red-tape on everything single member of IPMC. Cos > company’s interest rather than the Foundation’s interest, shouldn’t that be > dealt with in itself? > > > - A mentor must not have a vested interest in incubating, graduating or > > dismantling a podling that goes beyond the general Apache mission > > Could you elaborate on “beyond the general Apache mission”? You probably > have some concrete examples in mind, and I’m sure we don’t want to start > dissecting those examples rather than your overall suggestion, but > personally, I’m not sure what you mean. > > > - A mentor must not be affiliated with the entity granting the code > > (company or original project community) > > > > That suggestion would seem to preclude a knowledgable insider who happens to > be an Apache member from helping out with incubating a project. Which seems > kind of inefficient. > > > Furthermore, I would like to see this extended to votes on graduating or > > retiring podlings, so that only people with no organizational (aparty > > from the ASF) or financial ties to the project (or the companies behind > > it) can cast a binding vote on graduation or retirement. > > > > This would essentially mean: > > > > - If you work for a company (or are hired as consultant/advisor) that is > > entering a project into incubation, you cannot mentor it nor vote > > for/against its incubation, graduation or retirement. > > - If you are a in the original community behind the project, you cannot > > mentor it nor vote for/against it. > > > > I believe this would create a neutral mentorship whose sole mission is > > to guide podlings with the interests of the ASF in mind. > > > > > > Please do discuss this. If there is (mostly) positive feedback, I would > > like to, at some point, have a vote on including this in the Incubator > > policy. I realize this would cut down on the number of potential > > mentors, and I would ask that more people step up to the challenge of > > mentoring if adopted. > > > > With regards, > > Daniel > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
