Hi,

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote:
> ...Furthermore, I would like to see this extended to votes on graduating or
> retiring podlings,..

IMO this is where independence is important. We could require that 3
"organizationally independent" IPMC members review each podling before
graduating or retiring. Those people do not need to be project
mentors.

Having a written report from this graduating evaluation would be good,
for example something based on our maturity model [1]. Also useful for
the board to decide whether to accept graduation or ask for more
details.

Apart from that, if an organization donates code via incubation it can
IMO actually be beneficial to have one or two mentors who are familiar
with the project and its initial community.

So maybe define some independence criteria for mentors, but IMO mostly
require that independence for whoever reviews and recommends the
podling for graduation or retirement. Currently we mostly equate
mentors with this "graduation review team" but that might not be the
best way to do it.

-Bertrand

[1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html

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