On 24.07.2015 21:00, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > An an active mentor of the podling I do support the graduation. The last, to > my knowledge, concern expressed was about insufficient open discussions of the > new features on the dev@ and that has been addressed by [1] > > WRT your observation: I do think the diversity part in the graduation > requirement is moot and, as this discussion shows, quite counter-productive. I > will start a separate [DISCUSS] about reconsidering its presence in the > guidelines. > > [1] http://s.apache.org/vYK
Seconded. > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 05:36AM, Ross Gardler wrote: >> Wow this thread has got out of control. I'm not even going to pretend that I >> have tried to read all this while at OSCON (though I have skimmed much of >> it). Instead I want to make one statement and make one request of the Ignite >> mentors. >> >> First the request: >> >> Can active mentors please make a clear statement, in reply to this mail, on >> whether you support graduation or not. I assume mentors will consider the >> concerns expressed in this thread before making their recommendation. >> >> I'm asking for this because we, the IPMC, entrusted the mentors to guide the >> project to graduation. We should let them do that. >> >> When I see a thread that grows to this length in just a couple of days I >> know that it has degenerated into point scoring rather than meaningful >> discussion. We need to reset and let the mentors start the process again by >> summarizing their recommendation with appropriate justification that >> considers the feedback in this thread. >> >> Now to the observation: >> >> The "requirement" for diversity did not exist when the IPMC was created and >> I do not believe it should exist now. Over the years the IPMC has become a >> set of gatekeepers rather than a place for mentors to guide projects into >> the foundation. The IPMC was never meant to provide a quality control >> process - we have the Apache Way for that. >> >> Our intent was, and I believe still should be, that graduating projects >> understand (among other things) what diversity means and how it is built in >> Apache projects. Only the mentors and active project community members can >> make this judgement. >> >> Thanks, >> Ross >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Konstantin Boudnik [mailto:c...@boudnik.org] >> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 6:27 PM >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator >> >> Thanks for kicking off this discussion, Dmirtiy. >> >> As one of the mentors I think this podling is ready to get graduated. The >> process of "indocrInating" this group of people into the Apache Way was not >> always a walk in a park and we had our share of heated discussions. But the >> fact that the community converged into the ASF way of doing things and did >> it with open face makes me believe that the goal of the incubation has been >> achieved. There's nothing for me as a mentor to help this podling with. >> >> No, scratch that. One last thing I want to do. Here it is: before we submit >> this resolution to the IPMC vote, let's remove the following paragraph: >> >> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ignite PMC be and hereby is tasked with >> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and >> increased participation in the Apache Ignite Project; and be it further >> >> There's clearly no need to create any special bylaws unless the project >> needs to amend the common and minimal set of ASF bylaws. Having more laws >> makes a project worst off not better. Hence, I move to remove this clause >> completely. >> -- >> Regards, >> Cos >> >> On July 20, 2015 4:36:48 PM PDT, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org> >> wrote: >>> Hello Apache Incubator, >>> >>> At the suggestion of our mentors the Ignite community established >>> consensus and held a successful vote with 14 +1 votes in favor of >>> proposing graduation to TLP. >>> >>> Vote thread: >>> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/VOTE-Graduate-Apa >>> che-Ignite-from-Incubation-td1539.html >>> >>> Summary of the vote results: >>> +1 (non-binding) = 14 >>> >>> 1. Yakov Zhdanov (PMC) >>> 2. Gianfranco Murador (PMC) >>> 3. Ira Vasilinets (PMC) >>> 4. Nikolai Tichinov (PMC) >>> 5. Semyon Boikov (PMC) >>> 6. Sergi Vladykin (PMC) >>> 7. Alexey Goncharuk (PMC) >>> 8. Ognen Duzlevski (PMC) >>> 9. Valentin Kulichenko (PMC) >>> 10. Nikita Ivanov (PMC) >>> 11. Dmitriy Setrakyan (PMC) >>> 12. Andrey Novikov (Committer) >>> 13. Alexey Kuznetsov (Committer) >>> 14. Milap Wadwa >>> >>> We’d like to initiate this discussion/proposal to establish a consensus >>> within the incubator and if appropriate will initiate a vote. >>> >>> Below is our proposed resolution: >>> >>> Thank you >>> Dmitriy Setrakyan(on behalf of the Apache Ignite PPMC) >>> >>> SUBJECT: Establish the Apache Ignite TLP >>> >>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to >>> the public, related to the automated and managed flow of >>> information between systems. >>> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ignite Project", >>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >>> Foundation; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Ignite Project be and hereby is >>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software >>> related to the automated and managed flow of information >>> between systems and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ignite" be >>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to >>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair >>> of the Apache Ignite Project, and to have primary responsibility >>> for management of the projects within the scope of >>> responsibility of the Apache Ignite Project; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >>> Apache Ignite Project: >>> >>> Semyon Boikov (sboi...@apache.org) >>> Konstantin Boudnik (c...@apache.org) >>> Branko Čibej (br...@apache.org) >>> Ognen Duzlevski (mak...@apache.org) >>> Sergey Evdokimov (sevdoki...@apache.org) >>> Alexey Goncharuk (agoncha...@apache.org) >>> Nikita Ivanov (nivano...@apache.org) >>> Sergey Khisamov (s...@apache.org) >>> Valentin Kulichenko (vkuliche...@apache.org) >>> Alexey Kuznetsov (akuznet...@apache.org) >>> Gianfranco Murador (mura...@apache.org) >>> Andrey Novikov (anovi...@apache.org) >>> Vladimir Ozerov (voze...@apache.org) >>> Dmitriy Setrakyan (dsetrak...@apache.org) >>> Roman Shaposhnik (r...@apache.org) >>> Ilya Sterin (iste...@apache.org) >>> Nikolai Tikhonov (ntikho...@apache.org) >>> Irina Vasilinets (ivasilin...@apache.org) >>> Anton Vinogradov (a...@apache.org) >>> Sergey Vladykin (svlady...@apache.org) >>> Evans Ye (evan...@apache.org) >>> Yakov Zhdanov (yzhda...@apache.org) >>> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that >>> Dmitriy Setrakyan be appointed to the office of Vice President, >>> Apache Ignite, to serve in accordance with and subject to the >>> direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the >>> Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or >>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; >>> and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ignite PMC be and hereby is >>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >>> encourage open development and increased participation in the >>> Apache Ignite Project; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Ignite Project be and hereby >>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>> Incubator Ignite podling; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >>> Incubator Ignite podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator >>> Project are hereafter discharged. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
