An an active mentor of the podling I do support the graduation. The last, to my knowledge, concern expressed was about insufficient open discussions of the new features on the dev@ and that has been addressed by [1]
WRT your observation: I do think the diversity part in the graduation requirement is moot and, as this discussion shows, quite counter-productive. I will start a separate [DISCUSS] about reconsidering its presence in the guidelines. [1] http://s.apache.org/vYK Cos On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 05:36AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > Wow this thread has got out of control. I'm not even going to pretend that I > have tried to read all this while at OSCON (though I have skimmed much of > it). Instead I want to make one statement and make one request of the Ignite > mentors. > > First the request: > > Can active mentors please make a clear statement, in reply to this mail, on > whether you support graduation or not. I assume mentors will consider the > concerns expressed in this thread before making their recommendation. > > I'm asking for this because we, the IPMC, entrusted the mentors to guide the > project to graduation. We should let them do that. > > When I see a thread that grows to this length in just a couple of days I > know that it has degenerated into point scoring rather than meaningful > discussion. We need to reset and let the mentors start the process again by > summarizing their recommendation with appropriate justification that > considers the feedback in this thread. > > Now to the observation: > > The "requirement" for diversity did not exist when the IPMC was created and > I do not believe it should exist now. Over the years the IPMC has become a > set of gatekeepers rather than a place for mentors to guide projects into > the foundation. The IPMC was never meant to provide a quality control > process - we have the Apache Way for that. > > Our intent was, and I believe still should be, that graduating projects > understand (among other things) what diversity means and how it is built in > Apache projects. Only the mentors and active project community members can > make this judgement. > > Thanks, > Ross > > -----Original Message----- > From: Konstantin Boudnik [mailto:c...@boudnik.org] > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 6:27 PM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator > > Thanks for kicking off this discussion, Dmirtiy. > > As one of the mentors I think this podling is ready to get graduated. The > process of "indocrInating" this group of people into the Apache Way was not > always a walk in a park and we had our share of heated discussions. But the > fact that the community converged into the ASF way of doing things and did it > with open face makes me believe that the goal of the incubation has been > achieved. There's nothing for me as a mentor to help this podling with. > > No, scratch that. One last thing I want to do. Here it is: before we submit > this resolution to the IPMC vote, let's remove the following paragraph: > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ignite PMC be and hereby is tasked with the > creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and > increased participation in the Apache Ignite Project; and be it further > > There's clearly no need to create any special bylaws unless the project needs > to amend the common and minimal set of ASF bylaws. Having more laws makes a > project worst off not better. Hence, I move to remove this clause completely. > -- > Regards, > Cos > > On July 20, 2015 4:36:48 PM PDT, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org> > wrote: > >Hello Apache Incubator, > > > >At the suggestion of our mentors the Ignite community established > >consensus and held a successful vote with 14 +1 votes in favor of > >proposing graduation to TLP. > > > >Vote thread: > >http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/VOTE-Graduate-Apa > >che-Ignite-from-Incubation-td1539.html > > > >Summary of the vote results: > >+1 (non-binding) = 14 > > > > 1. Yakov Zhdanov (PMC) > > 2. Gianfranco Murador (PMC) > > 3. Ira Vasilinets (PMC) > > 4. Nikolai Tichinov (PMC) > > 5. Semyon Boikov (PMC) > > 6. Sergi Vladykin (PMC) > > 7. Alexey Goncharuk (PMC) > > 8. Ognen Duzlevski (PMC) > > 9. Valentin Kulichenko (PMC) > > 10. Nikita Ivanov (PMC) > > 11. Dmitriy Setrakyan (PMC) > > 12. Andrey Novikov (Committer) > > 13. Alexey Kuznetsov (Committer) > > 14. Milap Wadwa > > > >We’d like to initiate this discussion/proposal to establish a consensus > >within the incubator and if appropriate will initiate a vote. > > > >Below is our proposed resolution: > > > >Thank you > >Dmitriy Setrakyan(on behalf of the Apache Ignite PPMC) > > > >SUBJECT: Establish the Apache Ignite TLP > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to > > the public, related to the automated and managed flow of > > information between systems. > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ignite Project", > > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > > Foundation; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Ignite Project be and hereby is > > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > > related to the automated and managed flow of information > > between systems and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ignite" be > > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to > > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair > > of the Apache Ignite Project, and to have primary responsibility > > for management of the projects within the scope of > > responsibility of the Apache Ignite Project; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > > Apache Ignite Project: > > > > Semyon Boikov (sboi...@apache.org) > > Konstantin Boudnik (c...@apache.org) > > Branko Čibej (br...@apache.org) > > Ognen Duzlevski (mak...@apache.org) > > Sergey Evdokimov (sevdoki...@apache.org) > > Alexey Goncharuk (agoncha...@apache.org) > > Nikita Ivanov (nivano...@apache.org) > > Sergey Khisamov (s...@apache.org) > > Valentin Kulichenko (vkuliche...@apache.org) > > Alexey Kuznetsov (akuznet...@apache.org) > > Gianfranco Murador (mura...@apache.org) > > Andrey Novikov (anovi...@apache.org) > > Vladimir Ozerov (voze...@apache.org) > > Dmitriy Setrakyan (dsetrak...@apache.org) > > Roman Shaposhnik (r...@apache.org) > > Ilya Sterin (iste...@apache.org) > > Nikolai Tikhonov (ntikho...@apache.org) > > Irina Vasilinets (ivasilin...@apache.org) > > Anton Vinogradov (a...@apache.org) > > Sergey Vladykin (svlady...@apache.org) > > Evans Ye (evan...@apache.org) > > Yakov Zhdanov (yzhda...@apache.org) > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that > > Dmitriy Setrakyan be appointed to the office of Vice President, > > Apache Ignite, to serve in accordance with and subject to the > > direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the > > Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or > > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; > > and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ignite PMC be and hereby is > > tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > > encourage open development and increased participation in the > > Apache Ignite Project; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Ignite Project be and hereby > > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache > > Incubator Ignite podling; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache > > Incubator Ignite podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator > > Project are hereafter discharged. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
